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You can buy organic baked beans from various suppliers. These don't have artificial sweeteners but they do have apple juice instead. Back to the original, unnecessary sweetness. They might as well have added sugar.

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Andy Hall
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Aldi? Lidl?

Next to the circular saws.

:-)

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Frank Erskine

We need to consider fructose content (not just glucose, sucrose, lactose, etc.) And apple juice is one of the worst in this regard. So, overall, worse. :-)

Also, we wish to reserve our sugar allowances[1] for things that should be sweet - E.g. allow some pudding or a couple of squares of chocolate - and not have used them up in everything else.

Many years ago, when the no added sugar products started to become available, I was delighted. Then I saw the reality on the backs of the packs.

[1] Not due to diabetes. Just a decision to go down that road in the light of highly probable fructose malabsorption/intolerance and possible general carbohydrate issues. And no, we don't measure everything to a tenth of a gram, it is finger in the air at the moment.
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Rod

We only use one of those and we eat at least one citrus fruit each day, there are no effects.

Yeah, well ...

Reply to
Mary Fisher

So that's alright then :-)

Mary

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Mary Fisher

You've been watching too many films Bob ! BTW, it's on Film4 tomorrow night. How much of a coincidence, is that ?

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

Thus spake Arfa Daily ( snipped-for-privacy@ntlworld.com) unto the assembled multitudes:

That's right.... they called it a Bender Brunch. I tried the same trick but mine refused to curl into a circle.

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A.Clews

Probably why my dear old mum is still going strong at 87, with half a grapefruit for breakfast every day, followed by all her blood and heart pills !

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

That could be. Nonetheless, there are well documented interactions.

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Andy Hall

Waitrose. Next to the sugary ones.

Reply to
Andy Hall

Exactly. It's fast sugar.

These are better choices since there is combination with fat.

Especially when one realises that management of these is significant in lipid profile.

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Andy Hall

That's what I said - "statins for one thing" implying there are others.

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LSR

The point was also that he may not be OK with half a fresh grapefruit either with a statin or with other medications.

Other citrus fruits are generally OK.

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Andy Hall

Works well enough, though. S'wot I do.

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Huge

Don't order BB in the USA, then. They are so sweet as to be completely inedible.

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Huge

Good article here;

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Huge

Ah. I meant statins. And "probably OK" is much the same as "may not be OK". Most of the literature talks about avoiding drinking juice by the glass, which would contain much more of the relevent enzyme than half a fruit. Bottom line is - discuss with your GP. Mine says the occasional half a grapefruit with 40mg simvastatin daily is OK. YMMV

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LSR

It's funny actually. She is really fit in general, and has never really suffered with her health throughout her life. The heart / blood thing is as a result of some infection she had a few years back, that really upset her heart rate and so on, so when they finally corrected it all, they kept her on the medications to keep it all under control. But the thing is, she consumes so much salt (that's supposed to be bad for you) that it looks like a snowstorm on her plate. She uses nothing but butter (that's supposed to be bad for you) on her many slices per day of toast, bread and rye cracker, and always fries and cooks using lard (that's supposed to be bad for you). She also uses only full fat milk, and consumes prodigious amounts of full fat cream (both of which are supposed to be bad for you) on her strawberries or tinned fruit.

Whilst I don't doubt that there are some (perhaps tenuous in some cases) grounds for all the claims of things being bad for you, and interactions between foods and medicines, I am equally sure that in some cases, there is a degree of expectation in these regards, mixed with a liberal dose of hypochondria ...

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

IMHO, the evidence for some of the interactions is quite strong. But the critical issue in your dear old mum's case might lie in the "every". If the dosing effectively took that into account, all might be well. Seems to be very often the problem would be having grapefruit every day for one day or week, then not at all the next (or some such). That could provide a roller-coaster effect.

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Rod

I thought it was called pain perdu because it was stale, and dipping and cooking it in egg gave it new life.

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S Viemeister

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