OT First robot car fatality.

[Chris]

Which I gather is exactly what happened following the accident. ;->

I'll get me coat.

[Julian Barnes]

Oh, "experts" - ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Julian Barnes]

LOL! You and your flipping "experts" again! Are you not capable of critical thinking for yourself? Clearly not!

[Julian Barnes]

Why bother? You are clearly in denial and don't want the truth. You can't face the fact that it's OVER, mate! OVER! Time to move on....

[The Natural Philosopher]

Yeah, the EU is like the MD I handed over my company to after I sold it.

Two of us webt on to close te single biggest deal we had ever done, worth a shade under half a million. The MD was delighted' that's the sort of thing may company does' she said.

I pointed out to her that she had not even been aware of the deal.

"But it happened on my watch" she said.

-------------------------------- You can see Adrian sitting on a train and saying :

"The EU is necessary to keep the elephants down" "What elephants?" "Exactly: That's how GOOD THE EU IS".

Sigh.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Yep. We will have cheap oranges from Israel and expensive ones from Spain.

(Unless that Nazi Corbyn gets elected).

[Adrian]

Gove? Is that you?

[Adrian]

Scoffing is the easy option when expertise (otherwise known as "facts" and "reality") disagrees with your wishful thinking.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The 'things can't possibly get worse' syndrome. Only to find out later they can.

[Capitol]

No, the human eye has a much greater range. A dark adapted eye can detect one photon. I don't know what the top end is, but all my CCTV cameras can't take direct sun viewing.

[dennis]

TNP can see the facts, she doesn't care, harry can't see facts.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Can you give an example or two of a deal setup between countries which hasn't taken many years to finalise?

It might be possible if neither country was in a deal with anyone else - extremely unlikely. When it is, it's not only the deal between the UK and that country that matter, but how it might effect any deals already in existence.

So rather like being in the EU.

You make it sound like us leaving the EU has somehow reset the entire world.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Appeals to authority are the easiest way to back up and statement that you cannot yourself argue for.

[T i m]

Some people are easily amused.

They aren't 'mine', they (he) is an independent person who has been involved in the very field we are discussing for many years. Can you offer such credentials (or a quantifiable rebuttal to the facts stated)?

No, I thought not.

Yes, in that I can only correlate the *facts* that I am able to gather and as yet I've seen *none* that even start to demonstrate how we will be better off out of the EU.

Well, given that you must have such information (or you wouldn't be making such a stupid comment in public) I'd like to hear it please.

And I mean quantifiable and verifiable *facts*, not just what the voices in your head (or the Sun) are telling you. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

You would have though the phrase 'The grass is greener on the other side' would have been a big clue for TNP off as it has the word 'green' in it (and we know how much that makes his blood boil).

After all, what's a few (tens of?) thousand deaths a year down to pollution in our cities to him, as long as the bodies don't get in the way of his crusade. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

So it seems, which surprises me, considering how good he normally is at recycling other peoples data (Gridwatch).

I think he (and a few neighbours and pilots) has been blinded by the sun shining off his solar panels. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

Hmmm, nothing to offer than attempted distraction. 'Typical'.

Cheers, T i m

[Cursitor Doom]

It's over and done. You lost. Tough t*ts. :-D

[Richard]

I meant the being totally honest bit.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

If only it were over. Instead of not even started yet.