OT: Car Tyre recommendations

[Tim Streater]

I thought remoulds were illegal. Or is that just on trucks?

[Tim Watts]

Not in 1990...

[The Natural Philosopher]

Huge, in your world everything is shit.

That's why you are in my killfile.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Dunno. They remould aircraft tyres, so the principle must be OK for mere cars etc.

But many get confused with remoulds and re-cuts or re-treads. And so on.

[tabbypurr]

Re-cuts haven't been legal on most passenger cars for decades. So put away that soldering iron. Its done on truck tyres though, AND I vaguely it being legal for remember the heaviest passenger cars.

NT

[Another Dave]

Ah. I didn't know that.

Another Dave

[Dave Liquorice]

2-3k a year, the tyres will have perished before being worn out...

I tend to buy known brands, Goodyear, Pirrelli, Veredstien. had Michelin in the past but not been overly impressed, tendancy to squeal with little provocation.

Last set of Pirellies (Scorpion M&S) havn't impressed, only 26,000 miles, ~18 months. And they have knocked about 3 mpg off the fuel ecomony compared to the Veredstiens (proper winter tyres, Wintrac 4 Extreme, superb on snow) that did 46,000 miles.

I work on the basis that it's those 4 tiny contact patches between tyre and road that is all that is keeping you going where you want to go. So tyre choice is not something to scrimp on and needs to made with due regard to the vehicles use and road conditions.

The present car came with Hankook (IIRC) OK, just, in the dry, bit iffy in the wet, useless on snow. But that did really reflect the tread pattern, rather large blocks, with narrow channels (can't shift the water out) and no sipes (the edges give grip on snow).

When I need another set of tyres they will be Veredstien Wintrac 4 Extremes again and I'll run the all year.

[Huge]

Particularly you.

Sensitive little flower, aren't you, you lying sack of pus?

Hopefully the shitty noname tyres on your crappy rotbox will kill you and your family.

[Tim+]

That's pretty sick, even for usenet. Beginning to think he has a point a bout killfiling you.

Tim

[Chris Bartram]

See also Wan-li.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Yes. But plenty seem to confuse anything with 're' at the start of it with tyres.

The Colway site was quite convincing. They were *paid* to take worn tyres, so had the pick of the carcasses they'd re-use. So much so they stuck to one make to remould from - IIRC Michelin.

[Theo Markettos]

It turns out the regulations don't cover retreads, or tyres intended for pre-1990 vehicles:

"The Labelling Regulation applies to the supply of new car, 4x4, van and truck tyres with rim sizes greater than 254 and less than 635 mm. The principal exclusions are motorcycle tyres, retread tyres, T-tyre temporary use spare tyres, tyres for pre-1990 vehicles and racing tyres. The full list of exclusions is in Article 2 of the Regulation EC 1222/2009."

So even if you did this today they wouldn't be measured on the standard scale.

In terms of grip, it's interesting that going from G to A reduces the wet stopping distance by 30%, so that measure makes a big difference. On the other hand, G to A on fuel economy is only 7.5%.

Theo

[Capitol]

I had a remould tyre strip its tread at 90mph on a motorway. I did not know at the time that the Vauxhall main dealer had fitted remoulds. I had to replace all the tyres. Stopping distances apply to newly made and fitted tyres, as the tyres age, the rubber hardens and the stopping distances degrade. Caravan tyres have a lifespan of about 6 yrs IME, purely due to rubber degradation. The tread cracks have to be seen to be appreciated.

[David Paste]

Ha! Well, that is an interesting situation!

But, having tyres which perform well in the wet give you greater control over the braking of the car. If they have more traction in the wet than teflon ditch finders, you are less likely to skid off the road.

You'll be more likely to be able to swerve out of his way ;-)

[JHY]

More fool you. You are paying more because you will only use those who have bought a known brand and use that.

[JHY]

Yeah, me too.

[JHY]

Never come even close to anything like that.

Personal experience teaches me that "no name"

Just as true with those that have bought a once good brand, and you obviously have to pay for them having done that.

[Andy Bennett]

Czekoslovakian remoulds are my tyres of choice.

[Theo Markettos]

Some are, some aren't. That's why there's a test, to see which to avoid. For example here:

there's a budget tyre with the same grip as some of the premium tyres. But the other brand of budget is worse.

Theo

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