OT beetroot juice

[tim...]

in combination with Lercanidipine, neither my GP not a London specialist suggested it was a symptom created by an an "inappropriate" combination

[tim...]

Bisoprolo Fumarate

[tim...]

Having been told by a specialist, that if nothing else worked (he could try me on a course of some expensive drugs @ £120 pm) I casually asked my GP what was the cost of the drugs that he was currently prescribing.

97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to charge me 8 quid for them

bastards

tim

[tim...]

I like Beetroot, unfortunately, my bowels do not :-(

But even if I were to be prepared to suffer the side effect, the clinically tested results from taking this, or any other single food in excess, on your BP is going 2 or 3 points.

And as I need to find 30, what's the point!

(and the effect of indulging in multiple single foods in excess is not additive)

tim

[The Natural Philosopher]

all they did to me was make me laid back and lazy.

They are adrenaline blockers and are there to stop you getting stressed out and over revving a weak heart

[Andrew]

Have you tried the cooked-in-vinegar packs that cost about a £1 in Sainsbury and other places ?. Much more palatable than the plain boiled out-of-the-ground beetroot.

[S Viemeister]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Tell that to all the atheletes who use it regularly. Any reduction in BP and pulse rate before doing vigorous exercise, either athletically or simply before heavy-duty DIY is a good thing. According to my GP I did have mildly raised BP and they offered me the free flu jab even though my age didn't indicate it. When I saked why, they siad I was 'high risk' but wouldn't elaborate (but I have had hepatitis). I just shed a couple of stone in weight and took more exercise and the problem disappeared on it's own. A diastolic of 90/92 is upper limit of normal.

[Andrew]

The NHS now costs £150 Billion a year, and no, hardly anyone is 'paying all their taxes' to cover that amount. Only the top 25% of taxpayers actually pays in more than they take out during their lifetime. The days of the 'free at the point of use' NHS are numbered IMHO.

My 70-yo neighbour gets 'free' aspirin on (free) prescription which costs the taxpayer massively more than the 30p for 64 days supply (*) that is available in Tesco and elsewhere. He is even too effin lazy to use the self monitoring BP machine and expects to be waited on hand and foot. Meanwhile he is still working every day as a car mechanic, all for cash-in-hand of course.

(*) Chop 300 mg tabs into 4 with a sharp knife. 16 tabs lasts 64 days.

[michael adams]

says Dr Leslie Gormless-Turnip FRCS,

The UseNet Doctor you can trust.

Not with you they won't. Even on the off-chance you ever got something right which you obviously haven't here, they wouldn't believe that either. No matter how many times you repeated it.

michael adams

[dennis]

My GP keeps telling me to lose weight so he can stop the tablets.

If yours just wants to prescribe the pills I suggest you find a better one.

[dennis]

It costs a hell of a lot more than £8 to diagnose you, write a script and dispense it than the £8 tax.

[Thomas Prufer]

I've done both, with celeriac straight up being a bit watery, and the potato starch binds that well.

Also goes well with parsley root, with or without potato.

In an expensive restaurant I was served a dish of pork and calf jowls stewed in a sauce, possibly with red wine or dark beer and onions, celeriac-parsley root-potato mash. Worth the expense...

Thomas Prufer

[Tim Streater]

Bisoprolol is a beta blocker; I take 3.75mg/day. Used to take 5 but it dropped my pulse rate too far. In my case it evens out my heart beat.

[Capitol]

I found razilez to have fewest side effects, however its a marked laxative for many people at the 300mg level.

[RayL12]

Most living cultures, such as beetroot vinegar, are a very healthy balance of usable material. Virtually no waste. Because beetroot and, other living matter, learns to defend itself against nature, it can carry some good information.

Many types of vinegars are healthy. A small glass of red wine in a 4 hour margin is known to strip the arteries and veins of sticky deposits and reduce heart pressure.

Look into making your own 'brews'. Dandelion & Burdock really is a nice tasting healthy drink. Kombucha Tea is another highly recommended source of goodness.

We evolved from living breathing plants. It makes sense to eat what we are made of, and gain what they have learned.

...Ray.

[polygonum]

Fully agree that potatoes add something and that is much more to my taste. (Though a lot of spuds these days are incredibly sugary sweet. I want floury/starchy! And flavoursome.)

[tim...]

Of course he wants me to lose 3 stone and go to the gym every day.

but it ain't gonna happen

tim

[tim...]

sorry

why should the cost of my script subsidise the consolation costs?

That's most unfair on those of us who have to pay

tim

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[dennis]

Its just another tax, its no more unfair than VAT or income tax.