OT Another cash grab from the EUSSR

[harry]

[Nightjar]

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

[Fredxxx]

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

[Nightjar]

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

[Adrian]

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar >>>

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Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year, while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month. Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

[Capitol]

I see that our "you will be taxed by Brussels as it is good for you" sycophants are in full cry again

[tabbypurr]

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us wish to.

NT

[harry]

Assuming everyone is a taxpayer. Which of course they aren't.

[Adrian]

Firstly, where did I say that? Secondly, can you name one single tax rate that the EU has been directly and solely responsible for handing to UK taxpayers? No, thought not.

[Adrian]

Petal. It's such a bugger when a party you don't agree with win an election, isn't it?

[The Natural Philosopher]

That is disingenuous. You KNOW that the EU works by making national governments enact legislation on its behalf so that the illusion of sovereignty is preserved. And that it levies a massive contribution from the national governments who are left to find ways to raise it.

[Nightjar]

A recent survey showed that more than half the population would be prepared to pay up to a third more for milk, if that extra went to British dairy farmers.

[Hanny Z]

No party won that particular election.

[tabbypurr]

That half is welcome to purchase such milk. The other half can continue pay ing the current cost. It's one thing to say the above, but it tends not to translate into action most of the time.

NT

[Capitol]

Changing the subject because you don't like the responses? If we wanted more taxation we'd vote socialist. I'm perfectly willing for you to pay for all of us who don't want more unelected taxation.

[Tim Lamb]

Bring back the *Milk Marketing Board* might be a Thatcher era change unspotted by Dave:-)

Market forces are fine until sales outlets re-balance the equation with loss leader promotions.

Producers are forced towards the super dairies disliked by many.

[Huge]

Yeah, right. Except that in all the examples I've read of, as soon as the tyre hits the road and it looks like bills are going to start arriving, they change their minds.

[Adrian]

The UK had a majority government, which made the decision you're complaining about.

[bert]

So lets have Freetrade British milk

[Hanny Z]

I'm not complaining about anything, just pointing out that no party won that particular election.

There was no election involved and the european parliament that decided on those subsidies doesn?t even get to write any legislation, all it ever gets to do is either confirm or refuse what some unelected bureaucrats propose.