Odd Message Counts

[Rod]

I have been finding that whenever my news reader (Thunderbird) checks uk.d-i-y it 'sees' new messages. This is indicated by the unread message count changing - and immediately changing back.

When I look at the message list, I see several threads indicating unread messages. But when I expand the thread - there are none and the indicator clears.

If this happened once, I would hardly notice it. If it happened a couple of times, I would choose to ignore it. But it has happened dozens of times - in fact, every time I look. Seems resolutely stuck on 'Top of tiles', 'Specialist wood glue', 'saw this and thought...Heavyweight physics prof weighs into climate/energy scrap' and 'ducting airbrick through solid floor'. And no others.

I have also seen many duplicate messages - which have also (mostly) resolved into single messages on next refresh.

Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this? Is it a problem with the Berlin news server? Or my newsreader/computer/isp?

[Owain]

I occasionally have similar; I think it's a problem whereby Tbird gets 'out of synch' with the news server.

You can try compacting the folders, in extremis unsubscribe and resubscribe to the newsgroup. Dpeending on the server's retention this can mean several xx thousand headers to download again though.

Owain

[Dave Liquorice]

No problem with nin here.

[Rod]

Tried everything including unsubscribe/resubscribe - no change! That is why I asked - hoping it wasn't just my computer. Thanks.

[Andy Burns]

Have you killed any threads with the "K" key? it doesn't initially disregard new messages to such threads, until you click on the group, then they disappear.

[Rod]

Am familar with that. I have - but not in the past few days. (At least one reboot of the PC ago.) This has only been happening today. Thanks.

[Andy Champ]

I see this (with T'bird) and have always assumed it is my troll filters throwing things away without me seeing them.

Andy

[Rod]

Exactly what I have thought - but I really don't have many filters and none have been triggered this month.

A few minutes ago I "saw" 43 unread - which almost immediately changed to 1. Clicked on another group and back, flicked to 43 then 1 again. Read the 1 message. Now shows no unread messages.

But I *still* see individual threads apparently with unread messages. Expand the thread - none unread. :-(

[John Rumm]

Sounds like your ISPs newsfeed has switched to a new set of sequence numbers. Can be at its most irritating when they have several machines answering to the same name (via DNS rotation) and one is different from the others.

[Rod]

When that sort of thing has happened before, things have sorted themselves out. Odd that it is one NG, unsubscribe/resubscribe doesn't help, the errant threads show unread - expand and there are none - collapse and the unread indication re-appears.

As I am using Berlin/nin, I thought someone else would see the same problem if it were them?

Still happening on the threads I identified earlier - but not spreading. I shall just have to ignore it unless it gets worse.

Thank you all.