More on LEDs: some numbers

[Lobster]

But here, this is adequately compensated for by the presence of SWMBO and assorted offspring.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

You don't beat them nearly enough.

[js.b1]

The old CFL from 1990s seem to have a noticeably longer life than their rec ent counterparts, I suspect recent LED may too suffer from variable quality and are not cheap.

For stairs I am a bit surprised for a DIY group that no-one has suggested f itting either a "background" 3W LED bulb or sticking the lights on a PIR. I ndeed the positioning of hall light switches tends to be where the wire got cut (or dragged from around the apprentice's neck).

I too have a particularly :-) ghastly 3W ultra white LED spot, that will be come a "pool" light for the bottom of the stairs as a night light. The curs e of the blackout thermal curtains, dark carpet & dark furniture is an unco mfortable one... why? CFL take forever to come up to decent brightness in w inter. Sigh.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I'm a bit surprised for a DIY group that you don't move or install extra switches where you want them.

[Chris J Dixon]

How about a movement detector?

Chris

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Not sure they were around when I wired this house - and you'd need several to cover the area properly. Two of the switches are on the first floor. So why make things complicated for the sake of it?

[whisky-dave]

I have fan heater on the wall that I adapted to include a 13 amp socket wi th a 1amp in-line fuse. The fan heater has a pull cord for bathroom use an d is above head height .The fan heaker is one of theose ~2kw hardwired, so no 3 pin plug on it. I assume this is OK as it was checked out by the LEB w hen they connected up the E7 storage heaters. I have to stand on a chair to reach the 13 amp socket I added.

[whisky-dave]

I want gesture contol switches but haven't quite worked out how to do it yet.

[Dave Liquorice]

Like that will give any shock protection. B-)

The precense of a 13 A socket in a bathroom is frowned on because it makes it easy for people to use portable appliances in there. Nice bit of fresh toast while having a long soak? Toaster balanced on edge of bath, boing splosh, zzzttt...

Donno if the regs completely ban 13 A sockets or only in specific zones.

[whisky-dave]

Easy, well if I want to use a protable appliances in there I find it easier to use an extention lead than get a chair from the front room and try to run the toaster or whatever from a 1 amp fused supply.

Anyway from memeory I think I found that provided it was 3 metresa away from zone 1 it was OK. But not quite sure how they measure it.

I've never eaten toast in the bath.

Anyway from memory I think I found that provided it was 3 metres away from zone 1 it was OK. But not quite sure how they measure it. I can't reach the socket from the bath or toilet unless I stand on the toilet.

of course kids could be a worry but as I haven't had any in my place since 1990 and don't plan on letting anyone under the drinking age through my door......