More government stupidity.

Exactly, and if one calculated based on hours of accessibility, it would be even less.

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Andy Hall
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Indeed - but there are arrangements available for anyone to purchase a disk early, if they will be, say, abroad at the time.

Reply to
Graeme

Yes, at twice annual income, but how that income is determined is less clear. The monthly income comprises a lot of little payments - particularly mine, which includes several different payments for Royal Mail work, quite apart from PO work. You will not be surprised to learn that *nothing* involving Royal Mail Group is simple, or straightforward.

Reply to
Graeme

If I was the government I would ban you from having a car.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

Evidence? (Please don't forget to factor in that when the police on the streets nick someone for lack of tax they typically clear up several other crimes at the same time.)

Reply to
Tim Ward

If you were the government, that would be the least of my or anyone else's)worries.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

In message , at 17:32:05 on Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Andy Hall remarked:

Very little policing has a monetary ROI. Apart from "encouraging the others", the law must be upheld. It's also well known that cars which aren't taxed are much more likely to be associated with other criminal activity, and well worth checking out.

Reply to
Roland Perry

Indeed - on both sides of the counter.

Reply to
Graeme

As Buckie is in SW England, and I'm in NE Scotland, that is unlikely to be the tipple of choice!

Reply to
Graeme

Same sort of people behind the counter, and while they are at work they are not on the road.

Reply to
Steve Firth

Just like the Post Office.

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Steve Firth

In message , Steve Firth writes

Shh Stevie - just lie there quietly. Nursie will be along in a minute.

Reply to
Graeme

Indeed, but you don't need the absence of a disc to tell if a car is taxed. (and conversely the presence of one does not indicate that it is either)

Reply to
John Rumm

In message , at

21:34:42 on Sat, 9 Jun 2007, John Rumm remarked:

There are other ways of telling, but none which are as immediate or as widely deployed as the Mk1 eyeball.

There's probably an order of magnitude fewer cars with a borrowed, stolen or forged disc, than a missing or out of date one.

Reply to
Roland Perry

Or make annual MOTs a requirement even for new vehicles (a good way to catch all those cars with faulty lights!), make an electronic check of the insurance part of the MOT, increase the price to cover the tax and issue an MOT disk at the conclusion of the test. No need for the post-office to be involved at all, no postage required, no worrying about whether it would arrive or not and no documents for people to mess up when applying.

SteveW

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Steve Walker

I thought Buckie was somewhere near Banff? ;-) and something like 90% of the UK comsumption is in Strathclyde and Lanarkshire.

Or would you take a wee glass of Crabbie's Ginger Wine to keep the cold out?

Owain

Reply to
Owain

Mk1 eyeball only really works on parked vehicles though. Mk2 camera with automatic number plate recognition works on moving vehicles, allowing the dibbles to engage in hot pursuit.

Owain

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Owain

Which is why the ANPR camera network is able to check this stuff in real time. Hence far less need for tax discs, assuming that we really are prepared to accept the 50m ANPR records per day that are either planned or being collected already.

Reply to
Brian Morrison

The objective is to maximise the proportion of people owning cars paying their vehicle tax for the minimum investment and to attempt the check that MOT and insurance is in place. That is why those three things are brought together. A computerised system with on line access achieves that.

If the police feel that they need a coloured piece of paper to detect crime, then there is something seriously wrong. You might want to have a word with your chief constable and suggest that he considers his position if this is what he is suggesting.

Reply to
Andy Hall

Not necessarily. The system still relies on the postal service to deliver reminders and people do genuinely forget.

The police should be looking for other clues as to whether there is criminal activity.

"Bloggs was clearly the perpetrator of the bank robbery because his car didn't have a tax disk" is a weak position.

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Andy Hall

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