Magnetic fuel conditioners

Anyone seen these divices that fit round fuel lines on cars? Now a similar thing is available for gas pipes. Its a strong pair of magnets that clamp round the gas pipe. Supposed to ionise the molecules and cause them to burn more efficiently - any truth in the theory? A similar thing is used to stop hard water & I think these are proven to work

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Genius.

I have no doubt that they work just as well on gas as they do on petrol.

No.

No.

Don't they teach science at school any more? I feel old...

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Grunff

"Science" etc. is still taught - however, what used to be an "O" level now seems the approximate standard for an "A" level. It seems that basically anything from the '80s is a pale shadow of what went before.

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Chris Bacon

Well, I did my GCSEs (that's right - not O levels!) in 1990, and my A levels in 1992. Back then, no one in my physics or chemistry classes would have needed to ask whether magnetic fuel conditioners can work.

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Grunff

Ooops! Didn't realise you are so young... (were you a "mature student" (or pupil)?)

I'm not sure that is appropriate for "O" levels, or "GCSEs" - however, they are the sort of things that - should they really be of any use whatsoever - sell themselves, like, for instance, draught-proofing, electric lighhts, cider, or whatever. However, they don't. Even someone comaparatively light on education experience should be able to fathom that - KWIM? ;)

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Chris Bacon

You really should stop reading the Daily Mail and live with kids doing GCSE and A level.

As one who did sciences at O and A level AND has teenaged children I can assure you that standards of examination are, if anything, higher than in my day. At least I could skive for most of the year and swat like mad before exams - todays kids are pressured throughout their years of GCSE and A level with no letup. From the age of 4 they are poked, prodded, examined and judged. They have far less leisure (play) time, no where near as much time for socialisation and art and a LOT more homework. They go to University with an expectation of a £20,000+ debt when they leave and that is assuming their parents can afford the fees and a contribution towards living expenses.

People like you who rubbish the achievements of today's youth make me sick to my stomach

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Geoffrey

^H

Fuck.

Well I was angry!

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Geoffrey

But the youth of today doesn't _get_ to achieve anything, that's the problem.

I have some A level "A" grades (1982). Not many people got As, they represent a reasonable bit of effort and achievement, something you can be proud of. Today the best I could achieve would be the (supposedly) same "A" grade, which I'd be sharing with 1/3rd of those taking the exam. What's the point in trying to achieve a good result (in terms of correct answers), when the highest result (awarded) is merely this "a bit better than mediocre" ?

Today's A levels are a completely devalued and worthless system. Maybe the kids are working extremely hard and deserve a reward, but we'll never _know_ who these good students were.

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Andy Dingley

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "SS" saying something like:

Oh no; not again.

There's always a new twist on these things. Utter, utter bilge.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

They would do if it were not for people like you.

Mine were 1973.

But what you do not realise is that the A grade of today is just as good (if not better) as the A grade of your (and my) year. The A level (and GCSE) students today work HARDER! They are expected to get As and anything less than a B (or a C at GCSE) is discounted as worthless. How do you think that makes the B and C graders feel?

How DARE YOU! You cavalierly discount the efforts of thousands of teenagers and wonder why they congregate in shopping malls and spit at you. I think if I were a teenager today I would read this sort of crap and say "why the f*ck should I bother - it doesn't matter how hard I work or what result I achieve, some middle class, middle aged moron will say my efforts are worthless".

If you have children I feel sorry for them. I do have children and I am proud of the effort they made to get A grades and it was a damn site more effort than I made.

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Geoffrey

I have seen no test results to say they do.

I have one and it works.

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Doctor Drivel

I agree with you.

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Doctor Drivel

OK - I will admit to secretly wanting a combi (or possibly two) in my

5 bed 2 bath house.
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Geoffrey

I did O and A levels in 1970 and 72 respectively and covered this type of thing in third form. It's been a gradual decline, but faster in the last 15 years.

We need some plain old fashioned elitism again.

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andy hall

One has only to look at the examination papers to see that there is an enormous decline in standards. I was doing some comparisons just recently.

The amount of measurement and examination has certainly increased dramatically in the last generation, but one should not confuse that with quality of education or the level and type of learning achieved.

The type and purpose of education should be fitted to the needs and aptitude of the student, not delivered as a one-size-fits-all.

People have not changed genetically in the last generation, but the reality is that only some will benefit from a university education focussed on some content but more importantly on how to think, how to handle information and how to address problems. Others will benefit from something with more vocational focus as used to be provided by polytechnics, some from technical college and others from practical apprenticeships.

Now every educational establishment wants to call itself a university and the government to have 50% of the population going to one whether it suits them or not. This is a complete nonsense. I looked recently at the prospectus of a local educational establishment that used to be a reasonable technical college and is now a "university". One of the degree courses included an item on flower arranging. I don't think that there is anything wrong in learning flower arranging, but to suggest that it needs a "degree course" is ridiculous. It is this type of nonsense that is undermining the achievement of students by letting them be fooled into some feel-good thing that bears no relationship to what the economy requires or indeed the students themselves.

The model of having student loans etc. rather than grants based on the ability to pay is a separate issue and another nonsense.

Again the one-size-fits-all mentality ends up not serving the needs of anybody. Availability of quality university education has declined, as has that of the apprencticeship.

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andy hall

You must be gullible.

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Edward W. Thompson

These magnetic fuel thingies are an absolutely brilliant invention, and they do exactly what the designers intended them to do.

Unfortunately the intended purpose is to 'magnetically' remove money from the wallet of the gullible, and transfer if to the wallet of the designer. A task which they perform admirably.

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SimonJ

Matt, stop making things up. They are harder than ever.

The head of narrow minded petty snobbery obsessed Little Middle England rises again.

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Doctor Drivel

Common sense at last.

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Doctor Drivel

Another bloody Troll

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John

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