loft conversion _without_ strengthening roof?!?

[Tim W]

Roof wibbled on Sunday 22 November 2009 19:15

You mean like you? Yes, we really need extra blatherers who contribute nothing whilst proclaiming that they know everything.

[Steve Firth]

Having read the advice, it's difficult to WTF you are on about. The majority of the advice has indicated the potential problem areas and has included several recommendations to get professional advice.

I'm calling "troll" on this, especially since you share the inability to spell or format a post to usenet with several common (very common) trolls.

[Steve Firth]

If you want to be considered as a "contributer" (sic) then you're going to have to contribute something. Something more than self-aggrandising puff that is.

[Steve Firth]

Since on the one occasion you asked me for my advice, I gave it unstintingly and to the best of my ability, perhaps you could explain what your complaint is? Other than your bizarre concept of being mates with the Medway pratt, that is.

Or you could do what you have done on previous occassions which is to go off the deep end and act like an over-testosteroned tosser. Your call.

[Roof]

What is the span of the lintel and the loading? What is the size of the block pier and the compressive strength of the block / mortar? Did the pier have to be block bonded into the adjoining masonry?

Is this a residential or commercial/industrial application?

Who supervised the work? Did the builder have drawings to work to?

Who did the structural calculations? Did the job get Building Regulations approval?

Do you understand the difference between trade membership and professional qualifications?

[Roof]

No, not 'people', just the OP. If you chose to read it then that's your prerogative. I won't lose any sleep over it if you didn't, just as I won't if you 'kill-file' me. And clearly, you haven't done that yet.

I must confess I've never come across 'onanist' before, but would nevertheless point out that it is you that is making it out I am one, and not me.

[Bruce]

I think you miss the whole point of uk.d-i-y, which is to discuss doing things yourself around the home rather than paying specialists to do them for you.

When that involves simple tasks that are easily within the reach of a person who is reasonably intelligent and blessed with a reasonable amount of common sense, that's fine. When it goes beyond that, and into the realms of needing professional advice, that's where problems begin.

You, as a construction professional, have a choice to make. You can either offer constructive advice or stay away altogether.

But you have chosen a Third Way, which consists of a combination of (1) studiously avoiding offering any constructive advice and (2) abusing anyone who doesn't immediately beat a path to your door and pay you in exchange for your opinion.

That this approach endears you to no-one on here should not surprise you, yet you seem irrationally upset by the hostility - all of which you have thoroughly earned.

Do you think your negative attitude will increase your future fee earnings, or reduce them? My bet is very firmly on the latter. ;-)

[Ash]

Shhhhhhh ...... X Factor's on TV now and if them horrible twins go then there's only one more oink left to go to make my day (hint)

[Tim W]

Roof wibbled on Sunday 22 November 2009 19:56

I understand the difference between a useful human being and a troll.

Been fun, but have real work to do now. Bye...

[Roof]

Bruce, before I reply to you post, tell me what you do for a living?

[js.b1]

Me too. You can do loft-storage, loft-storage with lipstick, or habitable bedroom by BR PP. That is it. What is he on about.

You Need A Professional... flamin hell, when you hear THAT phrase you KNOW it's a "whoever" with a gap in their schedule! Professional Troll (with lipstick).

Still, could be worse, a chartered environmentalist... now that FRIGHTENS ME.

[Andy Cap]

My point was, that having a chat down the pub can reveal useful information but one anonymous voice couldn't be relied on. It's you who's asserting that anyone would be stupid enough to take such an opinion at face value. I like to credit people with a bit more common sense than that, but with a vested interest I guess it's understandable that you favour a more protectionist stance.

[Ash]

Will this thread end with "My dad's bigger than your dad" ?

[Frank Erskine]

Who _says_ he is? We have no idea of his name and/or qualifications, or even where he's located.

:-)

[Roof]

That's a function of newsgroup, Frank. You should know that.

[Ash]

Oh do go on and impart more of that wisdom of yours!

[Roof]

Ash, do I really have to spell it out? Solely on the basis of what you post to this newsgroup, how can I tell what your real name is, what your qualifications are or where you're located?

Need I say more?

[JimK]

unfortunately I expect so

[Bruce]

I am a chartered engineer with 34 years' experience since graduation.

[geoff]

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