Live wire with 5v a.c. when off

[stevelup]

Groan.

[Steve Lupton]

Here you go. I posted this from my Giganews account instead.

Does that make you feel better...

[Man at B&Q]

of one in having trouble correctly quoting posts in thread?

MBQ

[:Jerry:]

Who's he? I replied to you!

Read the attributions, assuming you know how...

[stevelup]

I'm losing the will to live.

For the love of god, *YOU* buggered up the quoting again, not me.

HERE:-

My comment at the top, yours on the bottom. Why the hell are you doing this?

AND AGAIN:-

My comment at the top, yours on the bottom. Are you deliberately doing this? Even Outlook Express doesn't make such an arse of quoting.

[stevelup]

Every single post he has made has been misquoted. I cannot for love nor money work out why he is doing it. In the first post, he quoted using a block like you would use on a web forum. In all subsequent posts, his reply appears at the same quotation level as the message he is replying to.

I know he is using Outlook Express, but it does not behave like that. The worse crime OE does is encourage top posting, it certainly is capable of quoting correctly.

[Frank Erskine]

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:07:10 GMT, had this to say:

I spent nearly 20 years of my working life messing about with 50V dc (in (G)PO telephone exchanges) and can honestly say that I was unable to sense its presence 'by hand'.

The real 'shocker' is when it's superimposed with back emfs from relays etc, and ringing current of some 75V ac; as well as coming into occasional contact with +/- 80V dc (into inductive loads) on telex circuits!

As a voltage it's all pretty harmless really - however dropping a spanner across 10000A+ power busbars produces a somewhat different effect . Like molten spanners... :-)))

The backup batteries (*large* open-cell lead-acid jobbies) would barely flinch at such an overload.

[Rod]

Has anyone mentioned power over ethernet (POE) being at 48 V DC? If it were not relatively safe a lower voltage would likely have been specified.