I access this group through deja.com and suddenly it's started to route me through Google Groups (Beta). It's been Google for ages but this Beta thing is new. My posts seem to be getting through in about twenty minutes instead of the usual six hours.
Is this happening to everyone or am I just the lucky one? If it is happening to everyone else, apart from the appearance and rapid posting, what other differences are there?
xav
I suddenly seem to be going through Beta. Like you say posts show up quickly but I hate the look of the thing. Also I can't see all the groups. Uk.legal.moderated for example has dissappeared. Kevin
I think everyone's being beta'd. It first appeared one morning last week but went back to normal by the afternoon.
I found it a bit painful until I found the "show headings only" option
-- seeing the first few lines of every post on a heavily-used NG like uk.d-i-y is rather tedious.
The change to proportional spacing will give us a problem with ASCII art.
After last week's trial, I was threatening to find another newsreader but maybe it will be liveable with.
The 20 minutes posting will be a boon, especially if it also works for posts sent in other ways. It's always been annoying to spend time preparing some words of wisdom only to find someone much wiser got there 5 hours previously.
There seems to be something funny with the "post reply" feature -- I typed the first draft of the above into the box provided, but after a page which made me sign in blood to their user agreement, it changed to another empty box, so I've had to type it all again. Chris
Posted at 17:11 GMT, just to see how fast it really is.
Why not just change to a decent ISP that allows direct access to newsgroups via their own server? I use Pipex, and posts appear within minutes.
I look at that one too and if you type in uk legal moderated in the search box top rh side, it goes straight to it.
Yeah, the quick posting is excellent, it's about time too :)) Maybe now if you have an emergency you can get it sorted before the house burns down!!! I can't seem to interspace my posts with others though. It used to be quite useful to be able to reply paragraph by paragraph but I can't see how you can do it now unless you copy the other post first and paste it into the reply :(( Perhaps someone else will know how to do it..
xav
The obvious answer would be to use a "real" usenet posting progam and talk directly to a news server, rather than mess about using web interfaces like google (which is great for searching, but less good for posting).
If your ISP provided news server is not up to much, there there are others out there that available to anyone and quite good.
As an asside I stumbled over another newgroup aggregator service that seems to provide a web front end for this group and a few others. See
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 17:36:28 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)" strung together this:
I was just thinking of saying the exact same! My posts, via the Pipex text only server, appear within 5-10 minutes. If they took 20 minutes I'd be well pissed, how can you call that rapid. If I email myself from one SMTP server to a different providers POP server it's instant, that's rapid.
For the moment at least you can continue to access all the old lists by going through google.co.uk rather than google.com
HTH
Don't even need to do that, the German News server works just fine :)
Lee
Everyone has their own preferences, but accessing News through web pages is something I find sufficently painful that I just don't access news at all if that's the only choice. There really are much more appropriate tools for the purpose.
Minutes? If it takes more than 5 to 10 seconds on plusnet's news server I figure they must have a temporary glitch...
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30-05-2001 20:46:31 New Boiler, what make?, mike barrett 31-05-2001 07:32:26 Re: New Boiler, what make?, Ed Sirett 31-05-2001 18:12:54 Re: New Boiler, what make?, Adam 31-05-2001 16:11:54 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 31-05-2001 16:11:54 Re: Are you telling porkies now?, sam f 31-05-2001 12:36:58 Mailgate: Message not available, 31-05-2001 12:36:58 Re: Moving a radiator?, . 31-05-2001 13:22:41 Re: Moving a radiator?, Tony 31-05-2001 15:42:01 Re: Moving a radiator?, KJR 31-05-2001 12:28:18 Mailgate: Message not available, 31-05-2001 12:28:18 Re: Emulsion on Multi Finish - poor adhesion., Max Bone 31-05-2001 14:38:34 Re: Emulsion on Multi Finish - poor adhesion., Stuart Noble 31-05-2001 12:45:21 Mailgate: Message not available, 30-05-2001 13:52:06 Re: Best Vacuum Cleaner for Wooden Floors?, Andy Hall 31-05-2001 12:45:21 Re: Best Vacuum Cleaner for Wooden Floors?, Mike Armstrong 31-05-2001 05:52:12 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 31-05-2001 05:52:12 Re: dust/vacuuming, Daniel Pendery 31-05-2001 12:05:17 Re: dust/vacuuming, Mark 30-05-2001 20:11:30 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 20:04:30 Re: Garage roof modifications, Mike Barnes 31-05-2001 08:47:09 Re: Garage roof modifications, chris 31-05-2001 10:17:08 Re: Garage roof modifications, Mike Barnes 31-05-2001 10:10:10 Re: Garage roof modifications, chris Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 20:11:30 Re: Garage roof modifications, Mike Barnes 31-05-2001 08:44:23 Re: Garage roof modifications, chris 31-05-2001 08:41:05 Re: Best Vacuum Cleaner for Wooden Floors?, Li460point3 30-05-2001 23:57:25 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 23:57:25 Re: Pea shingle, cormaic 31-05-2001 08:20:00 Re: Pea shingle, Inge Jones 31-05-2001 00:17:43 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 31-05-2001 00:17:43 Re: This ng admin, Andy Hall 30-05-2001 19:40:37 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 19:40:37 Re: protecting surface of coffee table, Chris Melluish 30-05-2001 20:09:58 Re: protecting surface of coffee table, Ledswinger 30-05-2001 23:08:39 Re: protecting surface of coffee table, Bob Cousins 30-05-2001 23:43:10 Re: protecting surface of coffee table, Mike Barnes 31-05-2001 11:37:50 Re: protecting surface of coffee table, Steve Firth 30-05-2001 22:33:07 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 22:33:07 Re: Lawnmower Maintenance, Ken 30-05-2001 22:24:59 Creda electric cooker, Susie Thompson 30-05-2001 21:29:22 Re: Creda electric cooker, Ian \(big guy\) Tilley 30-05-2001 21:26:08 Mailgate: Message not available, 30-05-2001 21:26:08 Re: soot, Nick Taylor 30-05-2001 21:23:32 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 21:23:32 Re: Odd boxes on the wall?, cbw 30-05-2001 19:38:06 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 19:38:06 Re: turning door handles, Phil Addison 30-05-2001 21:09:00 Re: turning door handles, Inge Jones 30-05-2001 20:58:02 Mailgate: Message not available, 30-05-2001 20:58:02 Re: underfloor heating, Rick Hughes 30-05-2001 20:41:00 Mailgate: Message not available, 30-05-2001 20:41:00 Re: depth stops, Inge Jones 30-05-2001 20:33:58 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 20:33:58 Re: turning door handles, Dave Plowman 30-05-2001 20:10:16 Mailgate: Message not available, Mailgate: Message not accessible, Mailgate: Message not accessible, 30-05-2001 20:10:16 Re: Ferroli Modena 102 combi, Ed Sirett 30-05-2001 00:37:23 Mailgate: Message not available, 30-05-2001 00:37:23 Re: Choosing Bricks?, Andy Hall 30-05-2001 00:25:02 Mailgate: Message not available, 30-05-2001 00:25:02 Re: Kitchen extension but not DIY., Andy HallThis is as far back as my server goes. Prior to the latest Google set up it was excellent data recovery.
I don't know how to call up the same data on the Google site. I just fiddle with the URL in Mailgate.org.
(Sorry about the expanded message list. I didn't want to give the impression there was nothing on the newsgroup in those days.)
Damn I just realised what it is I don't like about it. With the old set up I could access 100 threads on a page. now it's only 10.
4-kit!
Ditto with Zen, but how long do articles take to propagate to other news servers around the world?
How long is a piece of string.... Probably impossible to predict for more than a handfull of close peers.
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