Inflation rates

[The Natural Philosopher]

well paraffin lamp mantles are still available cost I bought some

[Adrian]

Camping shop.

[Matty F]

The mantles will need to be 5 inches in diameter. I don't think I will find any that big. Besides I don't like working with thorium and cerium. I will be making a diffuser out of Teflon sheet surrounded by nylon mesh.

[meow2222]

exactly

[harryagain]

Exactly so.

[harryagain]

Gas mantles. Gas light manufacturers

Ask for Brian Harper.

[Mark]

Rubbish. Homelessness is on the increase and food banks getting busier.

[John Williamson]

I'm listening to BBC Radio London now, and they're discussing the number of people living in sheds at the moment.

There was also an article yesterday on the news saying that in one London borough, 46% of the council tenants are in arrears with the rent.

Britain is rapidly becoming a third world country.

[harryagain]

You ARE a half wit. In third world countries there are no food banks and the homeless are not housed. Most of them are feckless idle parasites anyway. What has happened to them is a result of decisions they took earlier. Poverty is when you are starving.

Nu Labour managed for a while the override the consequenses of foolish decisions. They spent money we didn't have, Like the proles going to Wonga. Or spending their money on booze/other drugs/mobile phones. But Bliar /Broon and co. were too stupid to understand that it could not go on forever. The pigeons have come home to roost.

All their foolishness has to be paid for. I suspect Camoron hasn't the balls to sort matters out.

[harryagain]

Yep. Most of them are illegal immgrants. Things will only get worse after Jan 1st 2014. We need out of the EU and all this lot deported. They will still come, their home countries/culture are sp shitty.

We need to chuck the owners of these sheds in jail/deport them too.

[Adrian]

Are you _really_ this terminally stupid?

Here's some clues...

ILLEGAL immigrants can't apply for council housing. If they did, they'd be found in seconds by the borders agency and deported.

People coming to the UK from EU countries - including Romanians and Bulgarians next year - aren't illegal immigrants. They're legal.

Leaving the EU won't make any difference to illegal migration. If anything, it'll increase it.

Migrants from other EU countries, on average, pay more into the UK exchequer and take less out than UK nationals do.

B'sides, if the UK DID expel all those who've migrated from other EU countries, and all the UK nationals living elsewhere in the UK came back to the UK, then the population here would INCREASE, since there's more of "us" "there", than there are of "them" "here".

[Mark]

Ah. You have no evidence to back up your claims.

So what?

You know all of them then?

There is more than one definition of poverty. Maybe it's time you bought a dictionary?

[harryagain]

Bollix. They are doing work our own unemployed should be made to do. Any money they earn is sent home. They are driving up house prices and parasites on our health, benefits and education system. They are filling our prisons and hospitals. They are getting benefit money for children not even present and whose existencew is unverifiable. They are bringing diseases into the country we haven't seen in decades. Some of them are criminals fleeing justice at home.

UK migrants don't go to foreign countries to be parasites, often they are retired with an income. (Spain Portugal Italy).

[Adrian]

Thank you for the advance warning. But I'll read on anyway.

The jobs are there to be applied for by everybody and anybody. Why would an employer prefer somebody with poor English language skills? Oh, yes. Because "they" might actually be willing and able to do the job without whining and skiving.

By the way, when you say "should be made to do" - are you suggesting that the unemployed should be forced to work or be allowed to starve to death in the streets?

"They" earn it. "They" can do what the f*ck they want with it. Can't they?

Really? I thought they were all living on the breadline and benefits. How are "they" affording to buy so many houses as to distort the market, then?

Ohnoes! How DARE they expect to live in the same way as everybody else! How DARE they expect to educate their children! It's not as if they pay their taxes like everybody else, is it? Oh, wait a second...

Except "they" aren't.

Ohmigawd! You're right, Harry! There should be a law against it! Oh, wait a second. There is...

You seem to be very confused about the difference between EU migration and non-EU migration, and the very restrictive controls on non-EU migration. Still, given that you appear not to even understand the difference between legal and illegal migration, that's only to be expected.

Oh, wait. You actually appear to be a xenophobe attempting to make half- digested propaganda fit your prejudices.

...and then they moan about all the "foreigners"...

I'll bet you don't even see the irony in the BNP having an "overseas member" category, and the UKIP membership form asking which country you live in.

[Adrian]

Even those of them who are taxpayers, contributing more to the economy of this country than many born here?

What does it _matter_ where somebody was born?

Umm, you DO realise that the principle of freedom of movement was in place before we joined the EC in 1974, right?

[harryagain]

That's because they are here. If they weren't here we would have jobs to give some of our own idlers. Most send any money they earn back home. Those that are working (or begging) that is. I expect mostof any benefit money they get is sent home too.

Because they (or their parents) have contributed nothing to this country. In fact. they have taken even before they got here.

Lying toad.

Now which government was in power at that time?

[jgh]

Make the employers actually employ our own unemployed then. I've applied for dozens of shelf-stacking, burger-flipping, office cleaning, street-sweeping jobs and been turned down for all of them, while seeing the jobs being done by people with Veitnamise, Polish, Turkish or Somali names on their name badges.

jgh

[Jim Newman]

I've been reading his posts - yes he is.

[harryagain]

One in seven prisoners is a foreigner. All costing the taxpayer.

[Adrian]

Given that one in eight UK residents is a "foreigner" (assuming we mean "foreign-born"), and given that not all those in UK prisons are UK residents, I'm sure you'd agree that that seems roughly what you'd expect and merely proves that "foreigners" are no different to "us".