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So you admit to reading a Tabloid then, the reason for your ignorance is coming clearer now...
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No.
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You did, read your words above ! If you don't why ask me to guess which one you do read ?
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because you guess a lot.
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Maxie, good one, LOL.
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Right on Andy.
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Well, I don't read any papers and get all my news from the BBC. And am a socialist. But am perfectly aware that on the broader issue of WOMD Blair either lied, was very badly advised, or both. The facts of the 'war' only go to prove this.
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He did not lie. Badly advised by many intelligence depts, maybe. HE did not lie or sex up the document.

This is being addressed by the Yanks. Info was pretty well joint.
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Well what the hell do you call altering the wording of a perfectly good, if lacking in the required urgency, document is called then ? The document was changed, FACT. These alterations were asked for by those in No. 10, Fact. If you change a documents wording (by adding or removing words, so that it then reads completely decently it has been altered to meet your needs, FACT.
HMG might not have told a lie, but nor did he tell the truth either.

And the 'Yanks' have started to admit they got it wrong.
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That should have read - ...then reads completely differently it has been altered to meet your needs....
'IMM' is going to love that typo !..
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It was not sexed up, Hutton said so.
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Of course.
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IMM wrote:

So you are saying that Hutton must be lying then?
The fact the document was massaged by downing street is a known fact that is not open to debate - they published the evidence themselves on their own web site.
Demonstrating their grasp of all things IT, they released the MS Word document complete with its (hidden embedded) list of recent editors and revisions still in it:-
http://www.computerbytesman.com/privacy/blair.htm
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He said specifically that the document was not sexed up.
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IMM wrote:

So he was wrong, allow me to demonstrate:-
http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2003/msg00457.html
Much of the government document was plagerised without permission from an article published in the Middle East Review of International Affairs. Entitled "Iraq's Security and Intelligence Network: A Guide and Analysis". It was written by a postgraduate student at the Monterey Institute of International Studies called Ibrahim al-Marashi. Hence it is easy to compare the original document and the sexed up version:
Some extracts from the downing street version Vs. the original version:-
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"The second type of change in the British dossier is that it replaces
particular words to make the claim sound stronger. So, for example, most
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NO need, he is the final word...and the Tories and BBC accepted it.
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Faced with an overwhelming body of evidence to the contrary and a report with such narrow parameters
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geoff wrote:

What was the saying? Don't try to teach a pig to sing, because it will only upset the pig and frustrate you...

Actually I think he now secretly accepts what we have been saying, and has seen the error of his ways.
It is just pride that prevents him from admitting it.
Still this will be a good test, Here is a nice space you can use to say "Sorry chaps you were right all along I was talking b*ll*cks as usual!":-
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[your bit here IMM - or should that be "Oink!" ]
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(it may be however that his pride is now too wounded, and all he will be able to muster is an attempt at a put down... probably something to do with the "Vicar of Dibley" a show with humour that he aspires to emulate).
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