In message , logized writes
Yeah - just bought 10 of them
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IDE Ribbon Cable
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about 19" in theory. You can push it further on slower devices, but may well run into problems on ATA100 and faster (running mode 4 or above)
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Ha! Yes...
OK - in that case you can get 40 way IDC on a drum and a bag of connectors. Keep the length under 18" though - I think that's about the recommended maximum. Some people do sell 24" cable but it's risky.
Timbo
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"raden" wrote | >> If you want more you need a car to give you extra IDE ports, | >None of my cars have/had ide ports - what am I missing? | You obviously haven't got the right drivers
And the right kind of driver depends on what sort of bus you have.
Owain
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You can sometimes get away with slightly longer cables if they are shielded. Haven't seen anything in the ATA specs about shielded cables, but I am using a round 28" ide cable with two ATA133 drives with no apparent problems (very large case and the drives are in an awkward position) - this cable is nicely constructed though with the data lines in shielded cable with an overall grounded shield. The mobo also recognises it as a 80 conductor cable, ISTR that it cost a stupid amount of money though... ;)
Lee
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I think I have used 34" in the past - but that was probably only ATA66. As with most of these things, what happens in reality will vary on many factors so you may as well try it and see what gives!
The mobo or the cable? The round cables can be had for relatively little these days.
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And how many conductors in the bus...
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Original ATA spec is 46cm. I believe it got shorter with the higher speed modes but I don't have those specs.
[Parallel] ATA is very rapidly giving way to SATA now. I saw some figures for two months ago with SATA drive sales almost up to ATA ones, and they will have overtaken by now unless there was a dramatic change in direction of the straight line on the graph. ATA drive sales look like they'll drop to almost zero in less than a year. Was browsing around a computer store in the US two weeks ago, and SATA drives were actually cheaper than equivalent ATA ones (not sure that's true here quite yet).- Vote on answer
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and what charge they can get out of you...
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That's the wrong way to do it, as others have mentioned.
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(other vendors of computer equipment are available) have a USB2 - IDE connector. Comes with a little "brick" power supply that you plug into any 5.25" or
3.5" device (CD/HDD/...), plug in to disk or whatever, and then plug into USB2 port (slower on 1.1, but works)
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That's a bit unkind isn't it? Just because I'm electronically challenged doesn't mean to say I'm Norwegian. Bet I could give you the run around on Paxillus Panuoides or Donkioporia expansa. Be a little more trusting brother...
:))
xav
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About £1.50 each the last time I bought some
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In message , Andrew Gabriel writes
BTW, beware of Maxtor drives ATM, in a discussion elsewhere, quite a few people are getting failures within the warranty period
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In message , Owain writes
Yellow ones which clog up the data highway
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In message , Andrew Gabriel writes
That's the ticket
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In message , xavier writes
I do apologise, but we do get trolling like this IYSWIM from time to time.
... and I did say I'm assuming this ISN'T a troll
... and I did answer your question, didn't I ?
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The shielding may not be the problem. With any parallel data, long line lengths can give rise to "data skew" where some bits of the byte arrive out of sequence. I don't know how long the cable needs to be to see the effect, but it happens.
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Doing a minor hijack on this thread - and that has nothing to do with cars (!) - I've had a continuing computer crash problem that I've cured by moving my hard drive from IDE 0 to IDE 1, having done things like change the cable, etc without success. Any idea why this should clear the problem?
Rob
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The cable ;) It's about as thick as a quality scart lead :)
I know that round IDE leads can be had cheap these days, but I don't like the quality of the very cheap ones. They don't seem to like being handled much and I've had to replace a few that have failed.
Lee
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Interesting, I realised the shielding was only effective against noise, but I didn't realise that data skew was such a problem on ide cables.
Doing a bit of searching on this topic, it seems there are reports of data skew problems even in some "standard" length cables. Also, given the error correction used in modern systems, this sort of problem may not be obvious.
I have noticed a slight difference in benchmarked speed using different length/quality cables, but I've always put it down to coincidence. Maybe there is something more to it...
Lee