Hybrid Cars

[Doctor Drivel]

** snip lots of Timmy botty talk **

[T i m]

Real world, 54 (UK) mpg .. (source: Prius forum) fantastic.

I'll pass till they get it working properly thanks ..

T i m

(p.s. And 'bigger batteries' will only make the (real) mpg worse ....)

[Dave Plowman (News)]

1293 Prius cars sold between 2000 and 2003 in the UK. The new model has done better. But the original grant of 1000 quid was reduced to 700 and has now stopped because Powershift has run out of money. And figures for after this ain't available yet.

Given that the UK has just about the highest fuel cost if they really did achieve 130 mpg day by day as you claim everyone would buy one.

[Doctor Drivel]

Auto Express got 65mpg.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Bullshit?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

There are two owner reports on the Prius in the article. Both like their cars of course. One living in Feltham, which is a suburb of London, doesn't give a figure but admits it's nothing like the claimed combined

65.7mpg. Nor would it be expected to be so given those tests are for comparison between conventional vehicles and not a guarantee of what you'll get in practice as everyone who drives a car knows.

The other owner is in rural Hampshire but claims 60 mpg.

[Doctor Drivel]

US mpg.

[Doctor Drivel]

** snip boring senile stuff **

[Doctor Drivel]

Lots more botty talk here.

[Doctor Drivel]

Which is about right.

[Matt]

Can't be anything but :-)

[Doctor Drivel]

Lord Hall, that stuff is free. But is all cars ran on it the price would go right up.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Just love the way you comment on things you agree with but snip things you don't, pratt.

I'd expect a car used in a rural area to far exceed the combined figure. Not that you'd understand how it's arrived at given your total inability to interprate figures.

Now either go out and buy the mag so you can give informed comment on it or just piss off.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Please reduce the resolution of your screen so your failing eyesight can actually see what you've typed. Or better still ask your nurse to check it for you.

[Doctor Drivel]

** the senility is getting the best of him. He is now into love **

[Doctor Drivel]

**snip more senile botty talk **

[Owain]

It did until Matron took the pedals off!!

Owain

[Rob Morley]

Until you can get fuel cells with sufficient capacity at a sensible cost, and charge then at home with solar, wind or nuclear power, hybrid and electric vehicles are really just a way of shifting pollution out of cities. Carting all those heavy batteries around is never going to be a sensible solution.

[Rob Morley]

The large number of gears on bikes is as much to do with the mechanism as the need for many ratios close together. A lot of the ratios in a

21/24/27 speed setup are either duplicated or useless (you shouldn't use the larger rear sprockets with the large chainwheel, the largest or smallest sprockets with the middle chainwheel or the smaller sprockets with the smallest chainwheel because it causes excessive wear and loss of efficiency). Many years ago when building my "dream bike" I spec'ed a 14-17-20-24-28 block with a 32-52 chainset, which gave a wide spread of evenly spaced gears with no duplication - I soon realised that using ratios around the middle of the range (which is where you usually spend most of your time) required a lot of double-shifting, which just isn't convenient.

[T i m]

Did you OP in the hope that Drivel might have forgotten that he said he'd got a Prius Dave?

Or that the months of electric shocks (some medical, some playing with mains components) may actually have made him better?

Even membership to the ever exciting 'Prius Owners Club' with such games as "guess the hybrid part" doesn't seem to have helped him ..

like anyone with the reasoning abilities of a cuttlefish, rampant snipping and name calling is about par for the course?

All the best ..

T i m