How to "de-coke" Epson printer ink jets ?

The school where my wife works does that with its colour laser printer. When you consider the extra costs of drum replacement after a few toner replacements it's cost effective.

usually lots of pages (unless you haven't a spare and require more instantly).

My colour laser is theoretically cheaper for mono than my mono, and faster. However, Ebay makes the mono cheaper so is used for most output. Occasionally, for a large run, the colour one is preferred, but I usually lose browniw points from SWMBO.

Some order of magnitude faster!

Follow a diesel vehicle more than a few months old and you'll get far more particulates than from a laser printer at full chat.

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However, easily avoided by turning the printer on and letting it run a start-up cycle about once a week.

I can only assume that you are easily satisfied if you find a four colour printer gives just as good a result as a six colour printer. I supply a number of professional photographers and, while a few favour Canon 6 cartridge printers, most prefer Epson 8 or 9 cartridge printers.

Colin Bignell

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nightjar

Mind you, a set of high yield HP88XL cartridges, which won't come with the printer, will cost you more than the printer

Colin Bignell

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nightjar

Here's an interesting little mail that got sent to me a few weks back. Check down to the bottom for a reference to printer ink prices. Not sure if it will upload ok as it's full of little animated emoticons.

Arfa

The price of Petrol versus Printer Ink

All these examples do NOT imply that petrol is cheap; it just illustrates how outrageous some prices are....

You will be really shocked by the last one! (At least, I was...)

Compared with Petrol......

Think a gallon of petrol is expensive?

This makes one think, and also puts things in perspective.

Diet Snapple 16 oz £1.29 .. £10.32 per gallon

Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz £1.19 ...........£9.52 per gallon

Ocean Spray 16 oz £1.25 ......... £10.00 per gallon

Brake Fluid 12 oz £3.15 ...... £33.60 per gallon

Vick's Nyquil 6 oz E8.35 ... £178.13 per gallon

Pepto Bismol 4 oz £3.85 . £123.20 per gallon

Tippex 7 oz £1.39 ....... . £5.42 per gallon

And this is the REAL KICKER...

Evian water 9 oz £1.49..£21.19 per gallon! £21.19 for WATER and the buyers don't even know the source

(Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)

You don't even want to compare it with perfume or after shave.

Ever wonder why printers are so cheap?

So they have you hooked for the ink. Someone calculated the cost of the ink at................ (you won't believe it....but it is true........) £5,200 a gal.. (five thousand two hundred pounds)

So, the next time you're at the pump,be glad your car doesn't run on water, or Tippex, Pepto Bismol, Nyquil or God forbid, Printer Ink!

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Arfa Daily

nightjar

Yup, I'm easily satisfied and I'm sure most non-professional users would be - the output still looks like a glossy photograph that came from the chemist when held in the hand and not something as printed in a magazine. Me using cheapo photo paper from Poundland as well. Sacrilegious :-)

Peeking closely to find faults with some colours and visible dithering is not something most snapshot users would worry about at this price level. Besides minimun 1pl droplet sizes on the Canon iP4300 are smaller than the Epson Photo 750's 6pl, so in my eyes my newer printer cleanly gets away with it.

Seven years of development between the two and minimun swearing about blocked jets or excessive cartridge use...

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Adrian C

600 was about =A3260 when new, remember being amazed that it could print real photies :-) R200 was brought in a few years ago to replace the 600 as the ink mad cleaning cycles were beginning to get beyond a joke, they do clog and eat ink from new. But it lived on as workshop smudger for a few thousand sheets more.R200 for some reason has always been a lot less hassle in this respect, with carts from 76p at SVP its a cheap way of having decent A4 colour handy.

Adam

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Adam Aglionby

"nightjar.me.uk>" I can only assume that you are easily satisfied if you find a four colour

Easy to satisfy then.. I would want dye sub for professional work, inkjet may do for draft at a push.

I suppose it depends on what they are doing with the output and how long they expect it to last.

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dennis

That's why the jury's still out on the decision as to buying one or going for a laser. Price per page comparisons against some cheaper lasers are interesting though. These are for black cartridges based on manufacturers quoted (optimistic?) yields, colour would be more but the ratios should be similar.

HP K5400 (cost £75)- 2450 pages at £25 per cartridge = 1.06 p/page Xerox Phaser 6110 (cost £80) - 2000 pages at £42 per cartridge = 2.1 p/page HP Colour LaserJet CP1215 (cost £132) - 2200 pages at £55 per cartridge =

2.5 p/page

These cartridge prices are all for manufacturers' cartridges and might be a bit less with more thorough shopping around. Compatible cartridges would be cheaper but prices are too variable for a quick comparison.

I've seen compatible cartridges for the Xerox advertised at £22 which makes it tempting but I don't know if they're the same capacity as the genuine Xerox cartridges.

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Mike Clarke

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Adam Aglionby saying something like:

That's useful info - the R200 is well regarded and dirt cheap used. I might as well give up on the 600s, as the only reason I persevered with them was the very cheap cartridge price - which compensated for the abominable amount of wasteage.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

You have to remember that page counts for inkjets assume 5% coverage (text) and graphics/images can easily push this to 25%+ and the page counts plummet. With lasers there is little difference between 5% and 25% coverage IME.

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dennis

PC World is the last place I would look for computer bits. They are usually the most expensive and service is poor.

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Mark

Retail and the stores I'd agree but PC World Business Online has pretty competitive prices.

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Dave Liquorice

A good point. But I'm puzzled why coverage is less significant with lasers. I assume less of the toner ends up in the waste tank as the coverage increases but a small waste tank lasts for lots of cartridges so I'd assume just about all the toner ends up on the paper and high coverage would use more toner.

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Mike Clarke

Compatible laser cartridges are normally remanufactured - recycled by a specialist company. As the toner is not a significant part of the cost of remanufacture, they will usually have at least the same capacity as the original cartridges. The only thing to watch for is whether the cartridge comes in premium and standard forms, which will usually correspond to a high and a low capacity original. If the original has both, but the reman does not, it ought to be the same as the high capacity.

Colin Bignell

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nightjar

Lasers try and recycle toner but they aren't very good at it IME. So they use nearly as much toner for a page of text as a photo.

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dennis

and if you live near a store, the web order and collect in an hour with no waiting for couriers is a big plus. But I'd much rather they just put internet prices on the shelves.

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Tony Bryer

You can buy cleaning cartridges on the Internet. You put them in place of your normal cartridges and let them do a few cleaning cycles. It worked for mine .

Sam "nightjar .me.uk>"

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Sam Farrell

Possibly also how much the customer wants to pay for the print. All major ink manufacturers now claim to have archive quality ink. ISTR Epson claiming

125 years, although only if you keep the print in the dark.

Colin Bignell

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nightjar

Looking at the use people say they make of their printer and what they buy, most snapshot users seem to buy photo priinters, the majority of which use six colour inks

It could also be a better match between paper and ink. Epson printers seem to be particularly sensitive about paper quality.

Colin Bignell

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nightjar

We stopped selling them as they were not universally successful. As my main business is supplying the trade, products that bring unhappy customers back to their shop are not desirable.

Colin Bignell

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nightjar

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