How the disabled are ripped off

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Very interesting.

Bill

Reply to
Bill Wright
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Nope. You've still put the full purchase price in - it's just that you've had to borrow much of it.

That's a... novel... opinion.

I wonder if it's historically accurate...?

Reply to
Adrian

Reminds me of my Yatesbury days - before the M4 of course.

Reply to
Bob Martin
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You are mistaken about manufacturers being *allowed* a calibration errorr of +/- 10%. The minus calibration error is not chosen (playing safe) by the manufacturer but specified by UK law.

A speedo must never show less [1] than the actual speed and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph.

Manufacturers will normally deliberately calibrate their speedos to read ?high? by some amount between 100% and 110% to keep themselves within the law.

[1] That's the important bit. So pleading in court that your car has been built with a speedo reading low won't get you off a speeding charge.
Reply to
brightside S9

Nope.

That's what gearing is all about.

Nope.

Yep.

Reply to
Sam Thatch

Gearing enables you to leverage your cash. It doesn't mean you aren't investing £x. If you were doing a balance sheet, you'd show the full value of the asset, and the full value of the debt.

Riiight.

So, if we take the house my parents bought in 1980 for £60,000, then quickly borrow a typical web inflation calculator, it's currently worth £230k.

Ooops. It's on the market at the mo for £600k. And, no, it's not in London. Not even within 150 miles of the SE.

The place we sold two years ago, in the SE? Now worth almost three times the inflation-adjusted price over the 15yrs we had it.

The place we bought two years ago, in an area where house prices are relatively low, which'd previously sold at the same time as we bought that last place? Still at least 50% over the 1998 inflation adjusted price.

If we look back at the 1976 sale price for here? Oops. Now worth about four times that inflation adjusted value.

Furthest back sale price I've got for here is 1947 - six months before the start of easily-referenceable inflation statistics. That price'd now be worth about £65k.

In fact, if we look back, the biggest jump _relative to inflation_ occurred between 1976 and 1991.

Reply to
Adrian

No, that's absolutely not what I said!

I said that if you buy a 'genuine' part from a dealer network (for virtually anything) it will be more expensive than the same part from a generic parts dealer. Apart from anything else, the dealers/manufacturers have an obligation to provide a wide range of parts for a period of years, whereas the generic shop can simply ignore any low turnover parts.

Even so.

Reply to
GB

It also means the car shows a higher top speed than reality. Better MPG. And needs servicing more frequently. So a win win win for the makers.

In these days of pulse counting speedos, there is no need for the same sort of tolerance as once. Only thing which will effect the reading is tyre wear - which makes it read on the 'safe' side anyway.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

That would make slowing to avoid pedestrians, stopping for traffic lights , and cycling illegal

Reply to
Martin

It's illegal to go under 30 on a motorway. But obviously there are exceptions like.... a traffic jam.

Reply to
Tough Guy no. 1265

If your sat nav indicates speed, it is interesting to see the difference between that and the car speedo. Simon.

Reply to
sm_jamieson

I'm sure some fluid in a flexible tube could be tuned to become rigid when hit with the force of a car exceeding 30 (or 20) but just remain liquid below that ...

But since there is no incentive to make private motoring any easier over time, it would be wasted research.

Reply to
Jethro_uk

Of course, nowdays the reverse is true. Long roads like the A4 (or A4123 in Brum) have the lights deliberately phased so that you have to stop at every one, irrespective of speed.

Remember the mantra. Public transport:good. Private motoring:bad.

Reply to
Jethro_uk

No the thing that effects the reading is the software and the digits it chooses to show on the display. I thought VW emissions reading will have taught everyone that. So whatever a car says it's doing means little. It can't be that difficult to fudge speedometers to under read.

The police should use their methods of reading speed which should be checked and calibrated regualry.

Reply to
whisky-dave

in my case: 73 on the speedo = 70 on the GPS

Reply to
charles

Actually, the DfT last year announced that your concept wasted fuel and, although it increased tax revenue, it was now a bad thing and they'd restore teh phasing at Slough.

Reply to
charles

To the best of my knowledge, they are. The Speedwatch kit we use is checked against an external reference every time we use it.

Reply to
charles

That's what I'd expect I doubt what the drivers spedo says has any real relivence toi whether you've gone over the speed limit or not. So you're speedo can say whatever it likes irrespective of tyre size. It's the speed you are actually traveling at which is important to the police.

Reply to
whisky-dave

Even in the days of mechanical speedos, some were very much more accurate than others. And this didn't always follow the price of the new car.

Why would the police be worries if you are driving under the speed limit? All speedos only ever read high, if not accurate. They are not allowed to read low.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

You can estimate speed accurately? Most of us mere mortals have to rely on the car's speedo.

GPS may not always give you an instantaneous accurate reading - if it looses signal etc.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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