How do I dispose of this bulb?

[Huge]

S'what Bedford have just started doing. Green bin (compost - we don't have one of those 'cos we do our own composting), Orange (recyclables - sadly not glass at the moment) & black (crap).

[Rod]

Nor Pyrex (i.e. borosilicate, heat resistant) glass.

[Rod]

I was getting at the councils for *not* doing what they need to do. Totally agreed - the whole 'green' thing is chock full of half-thought-through things.

[Appin]

The message from "Man at B&Q" contains these words:

Let's get into the real world. Most lamps are installed "hanging down"

-- i.e. cap up -- and a great many are installed in enclosed fittings. If lamps are not developed sufficiently to be reliable in such orientations and environments, they'd not developed sufficiently to replace incandescent lamps.

[clumsy bastard]

Hmmm, not really what we want.

[The Natural Philosopher]

If it saves using fossil fuel, its a positive.

The biggest renewable energy source currently in the UK is methane digesters and waste incinerators. Way over all the windmills/hydro/solar put together.

[The Natural Philosopher]

SSSHH.

Don't confuse religion with facts.

[PeterC]

True - and a much better use for them than recycling paper ever will be.

[PeterC]

Beliefs and truths are mutually exclusive.

[Dave Liquorice]

Eh? We have the weekly landfill collection (blue bag), fortnightly green box (paper, metal, glass) and on the other fornightly green wheelie bin for compost (spring to autumn, winter 4 weekly. You can't get much more remote in Cumbria than us.

What we don't have is particulary good recycling banks though the one in Nenthead is OK as that does plastic (bottles and bags) which would otherwise go for landfill. The down side is that it requires a special trip which somewhat defeats the object, if there was one in Alston visits to that that could be tagged onto the normal trips.

The green box wagon is a specialist recycling one with seperate compartments for paper, metal and glass. The compost truck is just one of the normal type landfill wagons.

[Dave Liquorice]

It is very striking from the posts here that there is huge variation over the country about almost every aspect of council recycling. This is daft, it needs to be KISS for the householder or it won't happen.

All our food waste goes onto our compost heap along with the cross cut shreddings from paper containing personal information. The green compost bin only gets nasty weeds like thistle and ragwort.

Does the council provide the brown paper bags or do you have to source/buy them?

[Dave Liquorice]

Hey that'll be fun, I wonder how many miles I'll have to drive to it? Nearest neighbours are >1/2 a mile away as the crow flies and their nearest another 1/2 mile etc. Most down/up tracks from the public highway.

The communal bin area worked reasonably well when I lived in a block of owner/occupier flats in Bristol. But being owner/occupiers rather than tenants probably made a difference. I can just imagine what it would be like on rough council estate.

[Pete Verdon]

The big problem with those is how slowly they wend their way down single-lane residential streets, bottling up everyone behind them, while they sort the stuff in-situ. At least when I get stuck behind a normal bin-lorry they're rolling along as quick as the guys can bring the bins to the tail-lift, so it's not too long before I can nip down a side-road and get round them.

Pete

[Alan]

and it all goes to the same landfill.

The problem is not going to be solved by recycling. What is needed is less packaging and stopping the couple of tons of paper junk per year that is pushed through each letter box.

[Alan]

In message , Tim S wrote

Our local council distributed small plastic buckets with lids for food waste. The first high wind afterwards saw them distributed down the nearest road and into the traffic.

[Phil the Farmer]

Probably less than the miles you drove to buy the stuff in the first place. You've driven it in one direction, what's the problem with taking it back when you're done with it?

Still - at least these new bulbs last a damn sight longer than the old incandescent ones (heh!)

[clumsy bastard]

they can temporarily coincide

[clumsy bastard]

Wasdale Head just gets the one wagon as far as I can see

[clumsy bastard]

some does for the moment

dont stop there, it needs an end to growth to really change things.

[The Natural Philosopher]

No, Facts are subject to belief, and the truth is, as always unknowable.