House rewiring

Its not so much the CU swap that can highlight latent problems, as the introduction of circuit level RCD protection for the first time. Generally still worth doing IMHO since that's one of the big gains in safety (to both people and property).

If you go for a "high integrity" CU (i.e. a modern 17th edition style unit with multiple RCDs, but also some non RCD ways. Then if you do encounter any problem circuits you can always temporarily put them on non RCD MCBs to get the power back on. Allowing more time for full diagnosis and fix later.

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John Rumm
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That would indeed be one possibility. I will leave it as an exercise for our readers to think of alternative explanations.

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John Rumm

Just me... half the time ;-)

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John Rumm

Troll.

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Uncle Peter

Troll.

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Uncle Peter

Show me a photo of one that doesn't.

Then get the industrial ones, like they put in server racks.

Feel the heat off a transformer wart.

8 sockets where? At my computer desk? Only the telephone has a wart there.
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Uncle Peter

Show me a photo of one that doesn't.

Then get the industrial ones, like they put in server racks.

Feel the heat off a transformer wart.

8 sockets where? At my computer desk? Only the telephone has a wart there.
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Uncle Peter

He's Australian, we have to make allowances.

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Uncle Peter

He's Australian, we have to make allowances.

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Uncle Peter

So how frequently should you get your house rewired?

I don't think ours has been done in about 30 years as well. Should we get it looked at?

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sofarris

No, but you can pay for an EICR (inspection and test, was called a PIR)

You will not automatically fail just because it was wired to the 15th edition or whatever - but you will get some "needs improvement" items which you can interpret as you wish.

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Tim Watts

Yes, that's the alternative explanation we all had in mind.

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GB

If you do, beware of very minor issues being marked as needing doing

NT

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meow2222

And the words being "can open" are important. More houses manage a fusebox to CU swap without major problems than do have major problems. Most houses built in the 80s had fuse boxes and their electrical installations are fine.

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ARW

I moved into this house in 1977 and one of my first projects was to change the CU to one with RCDs.

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charles

That would have been unusual in 1977. TT supply?

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ARW

They are just asking to be cut.

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ARW

No. I take risks and break many H&S rules. I do not agree that the 17th edition is safer than the 16th edition just because of it stupid RCD rules.

But RCD protection for sockets is a lifesaver.

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ARW

Excellent.

What is imposed in 17 about RCDs that isn't in 16?

So you're a semi pussy. I don't bother with RCD at all, even when mowing the lawn, or a submerged pump in a fish pond. It's 240V, not 11kV.

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Uncle Peter

My dad was an MIEE (power engineer for the LEB). he was asked to comment on the regs back around the 14th edition froma general usability point of view.

"Too long" he said.

What he meant was that the typical user of the regs would have to plough though an awful lot of material - much of which was not relevant or necessarily that clear.

I agree with him there. All the extra "fluffy" rules do is:

1) Have sticklers like me in a panic trying to fathom if we've accounted for everything;

2) Add bulk and too much constant change so practitioners have a hard time keeping abreast;

Now a good deal of that was addressed by Whitfield and his pocket guide, and the OnSite guide.

But right now, you've got a single big book covering agricultural, industrial, hostpital and domestic domains. A large proportion of sparkies will not ever go to two of those domains (Commercial I lump in with domestic as being sufficiently similar).

So there's a case for breaking the book in to volumes - main core (domestic/commercial) with add on volumes for specialist sites.

And then there's this constant publishing of amendments - again, ridiculous waste of money for a few changes.

One edition, every 10 years max IMHO. If it was safe today, it is not suddenly a lethal hazard tomorrow just because an amendment says so (see plastic CUs discussion).

If there's an issue with plastic CUs, it is down to the BS (or EU) standards to address IMO, not the wiring regs. The regs should just assume a UK approved CU is fit for purpose, save for special locations (eg agri/industrial/petrolchem/mining).

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Tim Watts

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