Government scheme could benifit you?

[harryagain]

Green deal.

[Dave Liquorice]

F.knows is there anything but quango speak there? I can't find anything that says what is actually on offer, only wibble about the administration and "safe guards".

[nmm1]

Not that I can see. My assumption is that the 'standard methodology' will be comparable to ISO 9000 - which is a standing joke in the communities that have to comply with it. ALL that it requires is that there be a procedure and that procedure is followed. Test object. Tick. Ignore result of test. Tick. State that object conforms to requirements. Tick. Pass conformance document to customer. Tick. Hey presto - ISO 9000!

Regards, Nick Maclaren.

[Bob Hobden]

"harryagain" wrote

Needing something done to improve my home energy wise I thought I would wander around that site. What an appalling piece of rubbish it is. It tells you lots about nothing, gives you no links to the information you need, in fact it's all waffle and no substance. Reads to me like people trying to justify their jobs.

[Dave Liquorice]

Sounds like Warm Front but that is tied in with being on certain benefits or old. The average working family doesn't qualify for any grants, not sure if they can get an energy survey done for free. Warm Front also only does the easy things like cavity wall and loft. It doesn't do anyting for properties with solid walls.

I did see a few words in several pages of that quango speak that did mention the harder to improve properties:

"The key focus of the new energy company obligation - or "ECO" will be on those householders who cannot achieve significant energy savings without an additional or different measure of support. For example, this includes vulnerable and low-income households and those living in harder to treat properties, such as solid walled properties."

This Green Deal is also a "spread the cost" scheme rather than a grant. The savings made by improved insulation should offset the increase in bills, in theory. No a very big or nice looking carrot IMHO. Why bother with it if there is no nett saving?

[Frank Erskine]

Paid for, no doubt, via the Barnett Formula.

[Mark]

Which is long overdue to be scrapped.

[Huge]

Hopefully, Salmon will get his way and it will cease to be a problem.

[Mark]

I guess it would still be applied to Wales and NI though.

[Janet]

Nope.

The average working family doesn't qualify for any

wrong, see above. This covers Britain.

"(The criteria for loft insulation grants also apply to cavity wall insulation. You need make only one enquiry.) ALL home owner/occupiers and private tenants are now eligible for grant funding of 50% - 100% towards the cost of loft insulation."

Grants for loft insulation, of around 50% and above, are available for all home owners and private tenants - whatever your income - and of 100% if you satisfy the eligibility criteria."

The savings made by improved insulation should offset the

Once the householder has recouped the initial outlay (if any), their reductions in fuel bills (personal economic benefit) continue year on year. So does the reduction in energy wastage and environmental damage, a national benefit. Janet

[Janet]

It's a nationwide scheme covering the whole of Britain.Every=20 householder, owner or tenenat, qualifies for at least a 50% grant.

2011

"According to the New Policy Institute, there are over 5 million=20 households in the UK that could claim free insulation grants, saving=20 typically =A3260 a year on their energy bills, only 12% have actually=20 applied for grants for loft and cavity wall insulation.

As energy prices continue to rise, it's claimed that millions of UK=20 householders may struggle needlessly to stay warm this coming winter=20 despite help being offered by local government and energy companies.

47% of people asked did not think that they would qualify for insulation=20 grants whilst the rest did not know the grants existed or did not want=20 assistance.

Mark Smith from the Government Grants website said "As energy costs rise=20 at unprecedented rates and records are also being set for cold winters, it= =20 seems madness that people are not taking advantage of these grants"

Currently insulation grants of between 50% and 100% are offered to ALL UK= =20 home owners depending on their location and circumstances."

end quote

Janet.

=20

[Bill Taylor]

Note the weasal words "satisfy the eligibility criteria". Go to the warmfront site and you will find this:

"The scheme is now targeted at people on certain income-related benefits and living in properties that are poorly insulated and/or do not have a working central heating system. You must own your home or rent it from a private landlord. The Warm Front scheme is only available in England. Other schemes are available in the rest of the UK (see ?More useful links?)."

I'm more inclined to believe the government site, rather than one that tries to pass itself off as a government site.

[thirty-six]

Does 9000 not require the procedure to be identified?

[nmm1]

Yes. As in the example I gave. It does not require it to make any sense, or even be relevant. Any competent purchaser of an ISO 9000 compliant product demands to see the procedure before taking any notice of the claim, but you need to know quite a lot to be able to judge a good procedure from a bad one.

Regards, Nick Maclaren.

[tim....]

That'll be because it isn't actually available yet

Isn't that what politicians always do

tim

[Dave Liquorice]

walls,

May *cover* Britain but look at the eligibilty requirements on:

or Working Family Tax Credit is going to be received by most families but notice you have to have an "annual income" below =A316,190, the average UK wage (individual) is about =A324,000. And I suspect that "annual income" really means household annual income not an individuals.

[Janet]

Plenty of single parents, part time employed might qualify. Anybody=20 working fulltime for minimum wage, earns less than =A316 K; (including=20 professional, qualified gardeners btw, back on topic) and a lot of other=20 jobs , see below

The 20 lowest gross full-time median salaries in 2011 (% change)

1. Waiter =A312,117 -0.7
2. Hairdresser =A312,219 -4.4
3. Bar staff =A312,399 +2.0
4. Kitchen/catering assistant =A312,422 -2.7
5. Leisure attendant =A312,585 -3.9
6. Florist =A313,227 -7.1
7. Sales assistant =A313,449 + 7.7
8. Launderer/dry cleaner =A313,479 +1.3
9. Cashier =A313,542 +3.1
10. Domestic cleaner =A314,144 +0.1
11. Hotel porter =A314,515 +6.5
12. Shelf filler =A314,364 +5.0
13. Retail assistant =A314,521 +2.8
14. Nursery nurse =A314,554 -1.2
15. Housekeeper =A314,560 +2.9
16. Animal care assistant =A314,830 -10.6
17. Office assistant =A314,993 +4.8
18. Beautician =A314,984 -1.6
19. Sewing machinist =A315,057 +5.7
20. Fishmonger =A315,453 +12.1

Janet