Garage - deep cracked manhole cover.

In my concrete sectional garage, used as a workshop, is a manhole cover some 8" below the surface of the concrete floor. The edges of the hole are rounded over, from when whoever installed the garage and floor, something like this:

##### ##### ###### ###### ####### ####### # = concrete floor. ####### ####### #######------ --------####### - = cast iron cover.

*******= =******* * = hardcore, I imagine. *******= =******* %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% % = subsoil, I should think. %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% %%%%%%%=######V#######=%%%%%%% V = drain %%%%%%%=##############=%%%%%%%

Anyway, the cover is cracked, and the deep hole in the middle is dangerous. Sometimes, the smell is unpleasant. I want to bodge this, not spending money. If I stitch-drill around the top, or zap it with my Stihl saw, break out some concrete, and put in a frame of 4x2 treated, muck up behind the frame, batten and cut a piece of shuttering ply to fit, will that do the job? Any better (cheap) ideas?

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Chris Bacon
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A new manhole cover and frame is around a tenner, IIRC. I replaced a broken one about a year ago. Use a proper cast iron one though -- the pressed steel ones tend to go 'pong-ping' as you step on them. You could probably mount the new one level with the floor quite easily. In this situation, you might be required to fit a sealed manhole cover to prevent smells.

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Andrew Gabriel

| In my concrete sectional garage, used as a workshop, is a manhole | cover some 8" below the surface of the concrete floor. The edges | of the hole are rounded over, from when whoever installed the | garage and floor, something like this: | | | ##### ##### | ###### ###### | ####### ####### # = concrete floor. | ####### ####### | #######------ --------####### - = cast iron cover. | *******= =******* * = hardcore, I imagine. | *******= =******* | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% % = subsoil, I should think. | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | %%%%%%%=######V#######=%%%%%%% V = drain | %%%%%%%=##############=%%%%%%% | | | Anyway, the cover is cracked, and the deep hole in the middle is | dangerous. Sometimes, the smell is unpleasant. I want to bodge this, | not spending money. If I stitch-drill around the top, or zap it with | my Stihl saw, break out some concrete, and put in a frame of 4x2 | treated, muck up behind the frame, batten and cut a piece of | shuttering ply to fit, will that do the job? Any better (cheap) ideas?

Manholes need to be properly sealed, The bodges you suggest are not a good idea.

I you jump on the cracked manhole cover do you feel worried? If not, put a sheet of thick polythene under the manhole cover and seal it with grease. You will have to replace it eventually, which is *not* expensive or difficult.

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Dave Fawthrop

I wouldn't step on it, let alone jump on it. Th idea above, which may not have been well explained, is to leave the thing where it is, 8" below floor level, and put a "cover" over the whole thing, flush with the floor, which can be sealed. At the moment, there's a loose sheet of ply on the floor, which has edges which one may trip on.

If I was to replace it, it would be with one flush with the floor level, which would mean getting a cover about 8" bigger all around than a "!standard" one.

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Chris Bacon

If the existing frame is sound, why not shutter up from the existing frame and sit a new cover on the top, and concrete round both? Surely the old cover is near enough a standard size.

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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:08:40 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote:

| Dave Fawthrop wrote: | > On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 21:05:10 +0100, Chris Bacon | > wrote: | > | > | In my concrete sectional garage, used as a workshop, is a manhole | > | cover some 8" below the surface of the concrete floor. The edges | > | of the hole are rounded over, from when whoever installed the | > | garage and floor, something like this: | > | | > | | > | ##### ##### | > | ###### ###### | > | ####### ####### # = concrete floor. | > | ####### ####### | > | #######------ --------####### - = cast iron cover. | > | *******= =******* * = hardcore, I imagine. | > | *******= =******* | > | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | > | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% % = subsoil, I should think. | > | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | > | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | > | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | > | %%%%%%%= =%%%%%%% | > | %%%%%%%=######V#######=%%%%%%% V = drain | > | %%%%%%%=##############=%%%%%%% | > | | > | | > | Anyway, the cover is cracked, and the deep hole in the middle is | > | dangerous. Sometimes, the smell is unpleasant. I want to bodge this, | > | not spending money. If I stitch-drill around the top, or zap it with | > | my Stihl saw, break out some concrete, and put in a frame of 4x2 | > | treated, muck up behind the frame, batten and cut a piece of | > | shuttering ply to fit, will that do the job? Any better (cheap) ideas? | > | > Manholes need to be properly sealed, The bodges you suggest are not a good | > idea. | > | > I you jump on the cracked manhole cover do you feel worried? | | I wouldn't step on it, let alone jump on it. Th idea above, which | may not have been well explained, is to leave the thing where it | is, 8" below floor level, and put a "cover" over the whole thing, | flush with the floor, which can be sealed. At the moment, there's | a loose sheet of ply on the floor, which has edges which one may | trip on. | | | > If not, put a sheet of thick polythene under the manhole cover and seal it | > with grease. You will have to replace it eventually, which is *not* | > expensive or difficult. | | If I was to replace it, it would be with one flush with the floor | level, which would mean getting a cover about 8" bigger all around | than a "!standard" one.

I assume that the = sign above is brickwork. If it were mine, I take off the manhole cover and surround, build up the brickwork to just below the height of the garage floor, and put in a new cast iron cover the same size as the original at the level of the garage floor. I have added a few layers of bricks to a manhole and it is not difficult, or expensive.

If you are unhappy with the above, I would definitely try to seal the existing cover with thick polythene and grease to trap the smells. Any bodges above would not be part of the sewer and are not that important.

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Dave Fawthrop

Some idtiot who owned my house before me, simply poured in a plug of concrete. This is a possible solution, if you have other suitable rodding access to the drain.

Rick

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Rick

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