Friggin cold phone callers

[Huge]

I've been rescued by the RNLI. Over 20 years later, I'm still a Shoreline member, although I gave up messing about in boats.

[Man at B&Q]

But, but, but, Dennis will have a fit when he realises they don't need a paramedic on the ground to guide them down.

MBQ

[Adrian]

But it is not unknown for them to turn out for inland flooding situations.

Adrian

[Dave Liquorice]

If we get flooded bad enough for a boat to be required there will be an awful lot more things to worry about. Says him located on the side of a valley 1400' ASL and several hundred foot above the valley bottom...

[SteveW]

No, you're making that up. I said no such thing.

After a crash an air ambulance is requested where the ground paramedics consider it a sensible or necessary precaution - not for every crash. They are also used to transport patients between hospitals at times, either where speed or lack of bumps is necessary - you used to see stories in the papers of ambulances transferring patients long distances to specialist spinal units, crawling at 10mph along motorways with police escorts.

SteveW

[The Medway Handyman]

Only partly funded by Guvmint, not fully.

[dennis]

That's a bit selfish only supporting charity that you may need. Lets hope you don't ever need rescuing in a flood and the RNLI inland rescue teams don't turn up.

[dennis]

Why would that be? Paramedics don't have to operate from fixed bases like helicopters do. A good ambulance service will know where incidents are likely and will already have a paramedic nearby. Why do you think you see ambulances parked on motorway bridges and supermarket car parks? A hint. they aren't shopping.

No need for an air hearse then.

Lucky you, not much use for the other 99% though.

[dennis]

I didn't say they did. Someone stupid said it, maybe it was you!

[dennis]

Well how do you know the victim doesn't have neck or spinal injuries? If its vital that they have a helicopter then you must need one for any victim that could have neck or spinal injuries and you can't be sure until they are in the hospital.

Don't tell Dave that he is sure there are no ground staff.

That is not a reason to have emergency air ambulances. You could use commercial services or design a better ambulance.

[Man at B&Q]

"Totally impractical of course as the helicopter wouldn't be able to land without someone else being there."

Clearly there will likeley be someone else there. It was reasonable to assume you were referring to other emergency service personel.

Yes, you.

MBQ

[The Medway Handyman]

Years of training & experience, idiot.

You can be 100% sure that someone has spinal/neck injury, but even the suspicion is enough. If the journey is over rough terrain it could make it worse.

You don't need medical training to man a helicopter landing area.

[The Medway Handyman]

The Denboi idiot said; "It would be interesting but rather costly in lives to see what happened if they didn't send an ambulance and only sent the air ambulance. Totally impractical of course as the helicopter wouldn't be able to land without someone else being there".

[dennis]

Nowhere did I say a paramedic or even emergency services. However most helicopter landings anywhere near here need the police/highways to stop the traffic on the motorway.

the same is true for most population centres.

[polygonum]

Surely that is only if it needs to land on, or close to, a motorway?

It is actually possible for an incident requiring a helicopter to happen other than on a motorway. Or do you live on a central reservation?

[Man at B&Q]

No motorways through our village, yet I know of at least three visits by the air ambulance. Once landed in the middle of the T-junction at the end of our road, serious piloting and it made a fantastic leaf blower, once on the school playing field, the other I don't know.

MBQ

[Man at B&Q]

MBQ

[bert]

In message , The Medway Handyman writes

Of course you don't - but you do need to be a trained helicopter marshal.

[dennis]

Its best to ignore TMH. He is pretty thick as can be seen by him quoting bits to prove I said a paramedic where it doesn't say any such thing. He has been deliberately misreading the stuff I write since my first post. Just put him down as a troll.

[The Medway Handyman]

Its best to ignore Denboi.

He is pretty thick as can be seen by him changing his mind & claiming he didn't say things, or said something else.

He has been deliberately misreading any replies that don't support his position.

Just put him down as the village idiot around here.