Fridge Freezers - makes?

[Richard]

And how did you know that the factory was a Liebherr not a Miele site?

[The Natural Philosopher]

The real point to be made is that even two factories may well source components and subassemblies from a third.

How many cars for example use a borg-warner automatic transmission?

How many gearbox, manufactures are there? Or fuel injection system manufacturers?

Today being a car manufacturer means taking someone else's components and assembling them in a bodyshell of your own design only. Engines, transmissions, and all the mechanical bits are sub contracted to other places, as are wheels brakes and the like.

The 'manufacturer' at best is a design shop and a marketing entity for the brand. And an assembler of cars, not a real manufacturer.

Same for white goods. Same for almost everything.

My PC has a motherboard and chipset designed broadly by Intel, manufactured god knows where and assembled into a (I think) korean manufactured case with a chinese power supply...and is honest in that it doesn't have a brand badge on it anywhere.

Brands are less and less indicative of anything at all. Hotpoint, once a reliable British brand, is not subsumed into a generic multinational purveyor of consumer pressed tin crap.

[Richard]

No it is not. The real point to be made is: Why djc is so certain that Liebherr manufactured Miele fridge freezers.

Snipped rest of irrelevance.

[The Natural Philosopher]

well it may be that a third actual place assembles units for BOTH brands.

THAT was the pint I was making

[dennis]

Somewhere I have a PC with a MB designed by Intel, built by Intel, in a system built by Intel. It has an HP badge on it.

At one time a lot of PCs were made by Intel.

[Richard]

I realise that. However, your p(o)int does not assuage my curiosity in relation to the origin of the fridge freezers.

[Richard]

But did they manufacture Miele fridge freezers on behalf of Liebherr in a factory based in Gwanda?

[The Natural Philosopher]

well yes, except what does 'built by INTEL' mean?

They have got out of motherboards now.

Asus or giga wotsit now..

Not sure how much of the the chip manufacture is actually done in intel foundries either.

MM it seems quite a lot actually.

But I am fairly sure their board assembly was subbed out same as Apple does.

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[The Natural Philosopher]

Almost certainly..

..not!

[Richard]

Well, f*ck me. I knew the answer to that one too.

[The Natural Philosopher]

In essence I dont care. I have lost almost all brand loyalty simply because the badge on the front no longer bears any relationship to anything.

Cadburies chocolate is now disgustingly sweet.

In the white goods its just that at this pint in time, Liebherr are reasonably good quality at a not totally outrageous price.

How long that remains the case..

[The Natural Philosopher]

well serves you right for asking rhetorical questions, then.

[Richard]

Agreed.

Do you have autocomplete which would rather have a pint than make a point?

[Richard]

Sometimes it's good to have confirmation. Gwanda never had much going for it.

[Big Les Wade]

Yes I'll go with that too.

[polygonum]

Is this only for fridge freezers or does it also apply to other refrigeration products branded Miele?

[F]

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[Johny B Good]

In fact at one time (1981) _only_ IBM made PCs. Intel only manufactured the chips used by an IBM MoBo.

I don't think Intel jumped onto the MoBo bandwagon until a few cpu genrations later, probably, I'm guessing, when they helped in the development of the PCI bus nearly two decades later. I don't really know, so feel free to refine the date of Intel's debut into the MoBo manufacturing business.