Erbauer drills 14.4V vs 18V?

[mike]

's on the homepage at the moment.

[Doctor Evil]

Are Maktec the DIY range of Makita? If so the battery drills are not exactly DIY prices. .

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[Doctor Evil]

Interesting. Makita say that Maktec is a pro tool, the same quality, just a few features less. I looked at Screwfix and the Makita 12v drill/driver with 2 batteries is £95. An extra battery is £45. So that is £140 with three batteries. The Maktec, equiv., the same but red and a few different moulding lines on the plastic case, is going for £80 inc p&p with 3 batteries.

difference is 32 torque settings to 19, well who is that fused on 32 settings anyway. So £60 difference. Quite a bit for basically the same product.

They have been bitten hard by the Riyobi's, etc, so much so they have created a new range. Just like BMC did with their badge engineering in the

60s/70s. An Austin 1100 was the same car as the Morris 110. They looked the same and they never all came in the same colour. The hard of thinking believed they were different cars underneath too, they were not. BMC were playing on Little Middle England petty snobbery as people would wait 6 months for an Austin 1100 when they could walk away the next day with a Morris 1100 for less money too.

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[Tony Bryer]

You would have to be extraordinarily hard of thinking to believe that the Austin and Morris 1100 were different cars.

It was nothing to do with snobbery, all to do with the fact that there were powerful Austin and Morris dealership chains who operated quite independently of one another.

People do now knock the BMC badge engineering of the 1960's but it did have something going for it in that you knew (sort of) what was what: A/M: bog standard; MG: faster; Wolseley: more comfortable; Riley: faster and more comfortable; VP: decadent. Now you have to decipher SE's and LX's

[Doctor Evil]

A lot were.

A lot of it was.

The ones I saw were all BMC dealers and sold the lot. Or Austin/Morris dealers. On becoming BMC Austin and Morris dealers merged very quickly.

But the Austin and Morris 1100s offered nothing different from model to model, unlike the faster MG versions, except a different dash. Same with the Austin Seven (later Austin Mini) and Morris Mini and Austin Cambridge and Morris Oxford. Only the grills and badges were different. They offered nothing extra only appealing to good old Little Middle England British petty snobbery.

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[Doctor Evil]

Andy does have that problem.

You go boozing with Andy don't you? You are one his cheerleaders.

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The tosh continues......

IMM has never posted nonsense at all. That is very clear. Being intellectually four steps ahead of you, you can't keep up.

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[Jim Alexander]

hey count me in please

err no not that, the sensible response is not to reply to moronic posts, and the moronic posts feed on the responses of some who should know better but I did get a really disingenuous reply from Andy about the Miele warranty. Didn't respond because my ISP didn't carry the post, but basically Miele only have a 5 or 10 year warranty if you buy it. Its only 2 years FOC and as I said the retailer will wash his hands of it after 1 year.

And the JCB review was never "Best Buy" it was "Best Budget Buy". More disinginuity in the response to that.

However I won't personalise this, or other posts further. And I tend not to reply continuously to moronic posts. If others did the same problem solved.

Jim A

[Tony Bryer]

No they didn't. But Austin dealers sold cars like the A40 and (disastrous) 3-litre, later the Maxi, whilst Morris dealers had the Minor, later the Marina.

"The dealers were right in their fears that cuts in their organization would need to be made in order to fully amalgamate Austin and Morris, but they wanted to maintain the status quo by not accepting a single loss in the range and they fought very hard to do so. Not only this, but they would not accept losses in their distribution network, either. They used their influence with Lord to ensure that there would not be a single compromise made. The dealer principals could do this because they had direct access to Leonard Lord and as such, had an exaggerated influence over direction of BMC. They ensured that not only that Lord maintained separate Nuffield Group and Austin model ranges, but also successfully persuaded him to accept that the corporation required autonomous dealer networks to sell them. If there had been a will within BMC to break this stranglehold, then the dealer groups could call on written contracts defining their positions, in some cases stretching back fifty years."

[Roger]

The message from "Doctor Evil" contains these words:

Extract from Parkers Guide.

Morris 1100..... 1300..... 1800 - For all specifications and prices see identical Austin ..... model.

Note for dIMM. That means Morris models were not cheaper.

[Doctor Evil]

Dim Lin the Oriental enchantress is not in the market for crappy British cars, she is into the far eastern jobbies. How dare you insult here. Maxie will have your guts for garters. Some people are just filth!

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[Pete C]

Not quite, you need to shop around more. Best price I can find on a

12V Maktec and 3 batts is £59

and the best price on a Makita 12V with 3 batts is £75:

Comparint the specs of the two:

the latter has:

"TCT" Total Control Trigger for precise variable speed control Electric brake stops chuck quickly Push-button forward/reverse switch for one handed operation which looks like it accounts for the extra £16.

snip drivel... ;)

cheers, Pete.

[Doctor Evil]

drill/driver

That is a clearance sale.

No. £88 inc VAT

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

You can drill into many types of 'masonry' with an ordinary HSS twist drill - which may also be easily sharpened afterwards with a modicum of skill.

The more difficult - ie harder types of concrete or masonry will laugh at a hammer drill and masonry bit - you need SDS.

John, get off your arse, stop just reading websites, and get drilling. I no longer use a hammer drill for anything. Of course, you seem to want to use a cheap SDS which is so heavy you'd really have to be desperate to use it. Others with sense will have bought one little less wieldy than an ordinary mains drill - and don't have to buy expensive masonry bits every

5 minutes due to trying to use totally outdated and poor technology.

Perhaps you need to find a field where your surfing skills are appreciated. Answers appreciated. But as regards DIY - get a life.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Mike - for gawd's sake. John doesn't know a drill from a biscuit jointer. He merely quotes specs and prices, without understanding either.

Andy buys and uses the things he talks about - so at least has a worthwhile opinion on those he has merely had a play with.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Window shopping again.

Only on the internet do you get prats like this who are so conned by advertising that they believe everything they read.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The pieces are coming together. If you remember this as a car buyer you're an old man, which accounts for the fact that you can't actually do anything DIY anymore, but sit in your sheltered home and surf the net for your 'opinions'.

BMC - basically the amalgamation between Austin and the Nuffield group took place in the early '50s. So if about 20, that makes you 80 odd.

Perhaps you could ask your nurse to reduce your medication before posting?

[Capitol]

Anyone who advocates this, IMO, comes under the heading of an incompetent. The HSS drill can be resharpened, but will never drill a hole to the original specified diameter again. It is an exceedingly stupid practice!

Regards Capitol

[Capitol]

Regards Capitol

[Doctor Evil]

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[Doctor Evil]

Do you mean those prices were fake? What are the real ones? can you tell us?

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