Energy efficient homes to apy less council tax?

[dennis]

There were DIY subsidies a year ago but they weren't proving very effective and were abused by professionals.

Did you see how many builders were buying cheap insulation.

[The Other Mike]

Come home to a real fire, buy a holiday home in Wales.

[mogga]

Was it being used as insulation?

If the aim is to insulate every home in the UK as much as possible then surely making it as simple and easy as possible is the thing to do.

Spoke to some blokes last year just as the free stuff was running out. They said it was hard enough convincing people to have it for free.

[Huge]

Very irritating, given that it cost me £300 to upgrade ours to (better than) current standards.

[harryagain]

You're lucky you don't live in America. Unbelievable the stuff goes on there. Especially these days.

[harryagain]

Unbelievable with todays energy prices.

[Adrian]

Ah, the joys of the EPC.

Energy Wild Guesstimate, more bloody like.

[Adrian]

You ain't wrong there. Even before you start to look at whether the finance is a good deal or not.

I saw an EPC a while back that had the usual suggested Green Deal improvements on it. Amongst them was wall insulation. Cost well into five figures, annual saving about £100. That, to me, does not a good investment make.

[polygonum]

Would you give some information about what you think goes on there? Simply saying it is unbelievable is not exactly illuminating.

[polygonum]

In the field of particular interest to me there are two medicines.

One is available in doses of 25, 50 and 100. Patients are typically prescribed anything from 25 to 300 or more. Sometimes alternating doses

- such as 100 one day, 125 the next.

(The other is available in 20 only. Patients are typically prescribed from 5 to 160 (possibly more).)

Most patients are prescribed either strict 28-day amounts though a fair proportion get 56-days (as do I).

A few get 84-days or even longer.

The upshot is that patients get anything from four to 36 or more lines a year on the totally arbitrary basis of the dosages the manufacturers produce and the length of time the doctor prescribes for. I usually get six lines a year. (Sounds like cocaine!)

The saving grace is that it is almost impossible not to qualify for free prescriptions if you need these medicine. It is an example of how ridiculous charging by line becomes. But if it weren't for that, the cost to each patient would be pretty much arbitrary and many patients might avoid combinations that result in many lines. E.g. 200 is OK but

175 is to be avoided.

[SteveW]

There can be reasons. Many people need their loft space for storage. We do not have the current standard of insulation, as to do so would mean putting in a raised floor and the headroom is so limited, that would not be very practical.

I have however made a start on installing suspended ceilings with insulation below the existing ceiling.

SteveW

[alan]

It doesn't matter about pack size. The pharmacy will supply the exact number of pills on the prescription form. With generic drugs, often different manufacturers will have different pack sizes.

Unfortunately with different manufacturers the size of the pill can vary. Some3 are easy to swallow and some are not.

[dennis]

It would be if it were available as a green deal, solid wall insulation isn't.

[polygonum]

You might want six months supply - but all too many PCTs imposed strict

28-day policies. Backed up by doctors who were willing to go along with that. When the cost of prescribing is greater than the cost of the medicine, where are the savings by doling it out on 28-day amounts rather than 854-day or longer?

[Dave Liquorice]

Devil is in the detail. Fixed term loan for full amount paid back from the "savings" only over say 10 years... B-)

With a 5 figure bill this presumably is solid walls and either cladding the whole exterior of the building ro retrofitting insulation inside. For £100 saving I wouldn't go for it either, far to much disruption.

[Vir Campestris]

Each medicine. I got him to bump up the number of my migraine pills so I didn't have to get so many prescriptions.

Andy

[Davey]

Since the EPC was clearly flawed, you could have refused to pay for it.

[Davey]

Not here. British Gas paid for our loft insulation, and there isn't even mains gas in the village. Great!

Funny, we have a British Gas employee living here, and also a BT Fibre installer. Neither of these services are in any way expected in the area in the foreseeable future.

- Davey.

[alan]

No they didn't - WE paid 10% extra via our gas bills for all that "free" insulation. 10% of electricity/gas bills now goes to pay for the windmills and to people who generate electricity with solar panels.

[harryagain]

If you're poor/unemployed you are in the shit if you get ill. Even if wealthy and have insurance they may try to duck out. I have friends in America most of their spare cash is taken up with health issues. Most of the money spent on health care goes in profit to the health care industry. In 1st world countries they have almost the highest infant mortality and the shortest life span. Some people join the military just to get free health care as "vets". (They have special hospitals.)

Bit about it here.

So don't run down the NHS. Most American would be glad tohave it. Except the rich/republicans who would rather see people die. Nasty people republicans.