I can't find a site that'll give me a nice table of : Supplier name Tarrif Starting price X Price after XKwh/year E7 price.
They all seem to break it down into 'savings'. Which is a bit annoying if I want to work out possible changes in energy use to reduce bills by changing supplier.
In article , Ian Stirling writes
Just try to get one of those doorstep leccy floggers to give you a unit price for the power their selling sometime;!......
I emailed ofgem about 3 months back asking for this information. I received a letter in return with a whole load of information. But they didn't enclose a comparison, as they said that the information was changing so frequently. I thought that was what web pages, and ofgem, were all about.
Last time I looked (about 3 months ago) I could not find the information either.
Noz
A quick Google on 'Electricity Suppliers' gave several comparison sites on the first page out of 3,160,000 hits.
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes
Yeah, but Ian's point was that it isn't easy (or possibly even possible) to access just a table of tariffs.
What I did was use a few comparison sites, then checked the tariffs with the suppliers for the likely contenders myself. Usually when you get he list of 'suppliers etc. on the comparison site, there is link to show the tariff details etc.
Put in actual consumption (or predications if you want to try different scenarios), ignore the 'savings' bit, and look at the actual costs.
I changed recently through Energylinx (though there is of course no ned to go via them)
As they were the only site I tried that actually pointed out that it was cheaper for me to have separate accounts rather than dual fuel one
In article , chris French writes
I was going to suggest them too as they do have easy links to the underlying tariffs (via the underlined new price) so 1/2 way to what Ian wants but their prices for my current cheapest (Seeboard) are miles out of date, Gas 1.779p vs 2.182p from the Seeboard site so beware. Next best, Npower, is similarly cheap and confirmed by Npower's own site but it stands out on its own by so much that they must have a price increase just round the corner.
My normal fave of Telecom Plus is bottom of the list atm but I expect them to be back amongst the lead pack within a month or so.
Btw, watch the prices on Npower quotes, most comparison sites include their 60quid loyalty bonus in the annual electricity price so to get that price you have to stay for a year, irrespective of future price increases.
Are going to get to the same point with energy supply soon as we are currently with credit cards and become 'rate tarts' ?
Or like the telephone Co's who automatically adjust your account profile to give you the best deal / lowest prices?
Because we live in a smallish house with fairly low running costs (and we try to do our bit re energy savings etc) whenever we are 'invited' to save a fortune on our energy bills the final figures seem hardly worth the effort / risk (incorrect bills etc).
Talking of that, we feel it's worth paying a small premium to pay online quarterly .. "Your current bill is £25,000 and will be paid by direct debit" ... "oh no it won't .. you'll get the 50 quid transfer and we'll talk about the oustanding £24,950 later !" ;-)
All the best ..
T i m
Results 1 - 10 of about 11,800,000
None actually have any comparisons. They have links to sites which will recommend and calculate, but none actually list all the suppliers and their tariffs. Well, at least not on the first page.
I suppose I could check out the 11,799,990 other links....
Noz
Thanks for the comments everyrone. I'm trying to work out if a heat pump, run on E7, heating a large thermal store is worthwhile.
Yes, we feel the same.
But yesterday I blew my top, I was sent notification of a huge increase in my monthly budget thing for electricity. The poor lad who answered my call must have been sweating by the end. But he did arrange for the increase to be reduced to £3 and even that will be monitored very carefully - by me. As it happens we currently have a large debit balance but that's partly because of an estimated reading which is too high.
Most of the time I don't check but the effect of that letter would have kept us warm for days if it had been winter. As it was I had to divest myself of some apparel to get cool again.
What a waste!
Mary
Well when you've done it will you post it here, please?
Mary
thats going to be difficult, since efficiency varies widely depending on temperature differential. Pumping to a thermal store would keep the temp differential high, and thus efficiency consistently low.
Also you've got a lot of investment there compared to something solar.
NT
Very, very big thermal store. Such that the heat pump running constantly over the e7 period would heat by 10C or so.
such as concrete floors? if its anything else youve presumably then got a lot of air or water shifting to do to make use of the heat. But then I presumed wrong last time.
And although 10C above ambient is a lot better than what I imagined, it still reduces efficiency signficantly. So, what are you maybe doing?
NT
Basically, I'm wondering if a large tank - I have a place in the garden close to the house where I could fit a large tank, with plenty of insulation, heated using off-peak with the heat pump (which runs the UFH directly when the UFH temp is lower than the tank) could compete, or beat gas prices. It looks like the answer is yes - but capital costs are a problem.
When the rate quoted is 30%(*) less than my current low cost provider, I'll be that tart.
(*) As I stated earlier, almost certainly an error as the providers own site showed a difference of only 7%, still on a 1200quid energy bill I may just get the red lippy out . . .
On 29 Apr 2006 08:17:03 GMT someone who may be Ian Stirling wrote this:-
I suspect because they change too frequently for anyone to bother. As suggested you will have to make your own table up from the tariffs of likely suppliers.
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