DIY electrical work after 1st January 2005

[gary watson]

I agree, or possibly "I, the buyer, should (or ought to) beware".

I think that means "emptor" needs to be vocative - if it isn't already - and "caveat" needs its 1st person singular subjunctive form

- I'll try to remember to look it up - I'm sure my wife still has her old copy of Kennedy's Latin Primer somewhere in the house (in the loft I imagine). She did Latin all the way to 'O' level and so graduated to the one with the red cover (swot!) - I only remember the one with the blue cover (same picture) and enough to strike terror into the heart of any 1970s (or previous) schoolboy.

On a not at all tangential note, this is a DIY group isn't it ?

Anyway, I'm definitely going to bed this time.

Gary.

[Uno Hoo!]

I have to admit that I have never studied latin. The usual latin phrase used to warn potential purchasers is, however, always 'caveat emptor'. I have never heard or read of anyone using 'caveo emptor'.

Kev

[Mike]

Yes - far better. I seem to recall 'me' as I used it is rare in Latin .

Doesn't mean we can't have a good inta-lek-tulle discussion about dead languages, does it ? :-) Might come in handy when the EU decides Latin is the best common denominator language for a set of European building regs ;-)

[Mike]

True, but then had any of us heard of Part P until a year ago :-)

Perhaps under the O2J (aka ODPM) they'll decide Latin is too posh and want it in Scouse or Welsh anyway.

[Owain]

"Mike" wrote | Doesn't mean we can't have a good inta-lek-tulle discussion about dead | languages, does it ? :-) | Might come in handy when the EU decides Latin is the best common | denominator language for a set of European building regs ;-)

Up here in the top bit of Britain we still have a Roman legal system and our advocates are all trained in Roman law in order to qualify.

Personally, I think the rather older Code of Hammurabi has its advantages.

229: If a builder has built a house for a man and his work is not strong, and if the house he has built falls in an kills the householder, that builder shall be slain. ... 233: If a builder has built a house for a man, and his work is not done properly and a wall shifts, then that builder shall make that wall good with his own silver.

Now, how do I achieve boiler interlock to B Regs compliance on a hypocaust? :-)

Owain

[Andy Hall]

So why do we have all this Building Regulations shit? It seems to me that the legislation could be framed as above and cover all eventualities without the bureaucracy. Cases would be clear cut and even 'Bruiser' could understand it.

[Mike]

Sounds like simple "eye for an eye" that is still used in most of the world and was a good basis for law here until the Liberals started tinkering with things during QV's reign.

[raden]

In message , Mike writes

relevant bit snipped ... oops

What, the clearing of the glens ?

[Mike]

I think that was the other lot.

[Gerd Busker]

That and the fact that the extensions to the crumbling ring in my house have been performed (and, god knows how, certified) by idiots who don't get earth bonding means I'm puting in a new CU with ground fault protection for appropriate circuits.

And on another note: I had to cut through the ring pipe (steel) when doing work in the house and to my amazement only one side bonded to ground, even though both go back to the CU. How that is possible is a bit beyond me, but the new cabling now includes a copper ground fat enough for either RCD or non-RCD protected circuits.

G.