Could this be the end of modified vehicles?

[Muddymike]

this comes into force my Land Rover/Range Rover hybrid is doomed!

Mike

[sm_jamieson]

It does say This may prevent most modifications to vehicles without further approval of the vehicle. (this will apply to many components and to all types of vehicle)

What does the "further approval" mean ? A lot of money I would guess. Simon.

[Phil]

Worth reading the discussion here:

[The Nomad]

Umm, nasty!

OK so where would a vehicle needing SVA(1) stand? - OK I guess as it will be 'original' unless changed after first registration - I hope that is the case or my sporty run about (home build) is worthless and un-usable :- (

I guess a 'modified' vehicle could go the SVA route but?

Avpx

(1) Single Vehicle Approval - like an MOT on steroids & some

[Dave Liquorice]

What defines "modification"? The mention of "components" implies that if you fit a Britpart "component" rather than OEM then the vehicle is "modified".

[The Natural Philosopher]

And my spitfire. FUCK.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Strictly interpreted it means that no car that is not anymore quite like it rolled off the production line is not legit.

So no chipping, no fast road cams, lowered suspension, aftermarket wheels exhausts or brake upgrades..no pimped bodywork. No go faster stripes, lettering..even a respray is technically illegal, as are any non type approved bodywork repairs.

[Nightjar]

Strictly interpreted, it would seem to mean you can't change the radio or fit something like Tracker without getting the vehicle approved.

Colin Bignell

[Tim+]

Bit of a gay hairdressers car anyway so no loss surely? ;-)

Tim

[The Other Mike]

If it prevents chav scum with saxos and corsas with straight through exhausts driving round like a bunch of c*nts, and gangsters in their 4x4's with blacked out windows, and tossers fitting blue LEDS to their vehicles then on the surface IMHO it's a very good idea.

Bit of a bummer if you have a vehicle that is lethal with manufacturer supplied brakes but drives and stops like it should with a thousand quid AP Racing upgrade.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Maybe even just changing the tyres for another brand. Or battery. Or brake pads. Etc.

The car makers could well be behind this - after all they're only interested in new car sales and servicing them using their own parts.

But there are vast numbers of people involved in the manufacture and selling of aftermarket parts - let alone 'tuning' bits and pieces. And of course effectively ban classics, etc, and the whole show scene would collapse - which is a pretty big industry too.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

All these things are already against the law. But it isn't enforced. Police too busy doing more important things. Or more likely easier.

[Tim Watts]

It's a crap idea and it won't stop any of those things as most of those are illegal *right now* and nothing is done.

[The Natural Philosopher]

It was a bit more macho when I'd finished. Bloody fast and the rear axle was boled down hard to make it corner. Servo brakes as well.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Frankly I dont give a toss as long as I cant hear ther Kw bass speakers...

Well yes.

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[Jules Richardson]

We get 'collector plates' over here, which allow driving to and from a show, but not a lot else - my truck had them when I got it, but it wasn't difficult to get it swapped over to normal plates (and the vehicle's old enough that it only costs me about 20 quid a year in road tax)

It does sound like a complete load of bollocks. I put a rev limiter and electronic ignition on the last Stag that I had in the UK, and it seems that would have fallen foul of this proposal. Heck, it had oversize pistons (20 thou I think) following a rebore - I wonder if those would have been a problem, too...

cheers

Jules

[NT]

Not a fan of basic freedoms then

NT

[The Other Mike]

The usual result of freedom is a vehicle with zero suspension travel, that is dragging its arse on the ground, with stop lights and indicators that are blacked out or with overbright dazzling HID lamps fitted to vehicles with poor pitch control (due to s**te lowered suspension and incorrect damping) Typically with an exhaust shaped object that doesn't silence and that scares every living thing within half a mile, with massively oversized tyres increasing the possibility of aquaplaning, with no regards to wheel offset or correct tyre section width for the rim. They will also have number plates that are unreadable by ANPR.

Chances are that the reversed baseball cap wearing driver will also be under the influence of drugs or alcohol and have a significantly higher risk of accident involving injury to others.

[The Natural Philosopher]

those are already offences.

or with overbright dazzling HID lamps fitted to vehicles with poor

Those are already MOT failures

Typically

An offence alreday

and that scares every living

Another offence and an MOT failuer

Also currently offences.

So what you are saying is that these vehicles wouldn#t pass an MOT and are already committing several CU type offences and the drivers are already beyond legal limits of drug and alcohol abuse, so why more legislation?

When the existing is not being applied?

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[Grimly Curmudgeon]

I well remember that song from my early days. It was one of the songs that really stuck with me as back then I could see the truth of it, with mass-produced houses springing up on hillsides and the people in them doing all the same sort of things.

50 years ago it was happening and things haven't got any better.