On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 11:31:32 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" strung together this:
Er, I'm a tradesman and I don't make a living at doing gas work.
Well quite, I think it's one of those grey areas. I personally am quite confident at gas work, but I still get the gas engineer from across the road or my Dad to check it, I'm just like that.
And your point being?
Someone with no experience or skills might decide to work on gas in that sort of building just to be 'helpful'. For no money, or earthly gain. If others know that you must be qualified to work on gas (apart from in your own home) they might just stop him.
You're only a tradesman when working at your own trade, FFS. Otherwise you're an amateur.
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:58:27 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" strung together this:
I see what you mean, yes I agree with you. There is this whole qualified\registered thing again!
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:59:39 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" strung together this:
I'm still a tradesman, just not in that particular area. Although I see what you mean.
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote | tarquinlinbin wrote: | > >Surely they won't be Corgi registered? | > Does it make a difference these days? | He'd be breaking the law by working on gas - and therefore probably | doesn't bother with insurance etc either. Or, of course, pay tax.
Of course, said Polish gasfitter might be registered with whatever the Polish equivalent of CORGI is[1] and so should, under mutual recognition of qualifications and free movement of labour within the EU, be allowed to practice in this country.
Owain
[1] I was thinking POODLE but couldn't come up with a source for the acronym.
CORGSKI
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Ah. It's now a *Polish* gasfitter?;-) T'was but an Eastern European earlier...
Shortly after I came to London in nineteen hundred and mumble mumble, I had a bedsit in the family home of a Polish plumber. Quite the best landlord I ever had, and one of the nicest people I've known, too.
Just thought you'd like to know that. ;-)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote | > Of course, said Polish gasfitter | Ah. It's now a *Polish* gasfitter?;-) T'was but an Eastern European | earlier...
Polish schmolish. The original posting had expired off here and I oculdn't remember.
| Shortly after I came to London in nineteen hundred and mumble mumble, | I had a bedsit in the family home of a Polish plumber. Quite the best | landlord I ever had, and one of the nicest people I've known, too.
Yes, but what was his plumbing like?
| Just thought you'd like to know that. ;-)
First flat I lived in after uni, the landlord plumbed the electric shower into the hot water system, and it shut down if anyone switched the immersion on. So a choice of warm water and no shower, or cold water and warm shower.
Owain
No, 40 quid on the Tuesday to disconnect the hob, which I then removed. 80 quid the next day (Wedesday) to connect the new gas cooker. They were working in the village at the time. Must have cost them, ooh, all of five minutes to drive to my house. I did query it, but they said they had to fit a steady chain...
"But you have to have Corgi!!!"
MM
OK it might be possible to sort out all the issues involved with enough people oon one day. I fear on many sited they would easily get in each others way.
I tend not to charge a call out but I do have a minimum fee of £40. I might take a bit less from a _neighbour_ if the job is trivial.
Small jobs are disproportionately expnsive, it's the same for carpentry or electrics or any of the trades.
I was asked to do some gas work when I was on hols in Germany so I looked into this. I was not able to find out anything from CORGI or elsewhere. I was confident I new what I was doing and my german is just good enough to be able to read the instructions and know what they mean - with a little help from 'her'. There is no way I would tackle this in Poland.
...some of whom work for Transco. Although mostly they are the good guys.
moaning that he couldn't get anyone to quote the work let alone turn up to see the job, all he could say was that's expensive didn't think it was gonna be that much. so I told him to have a think and let me know.
reddi-sparks
"Ed Sirett" wrote | > Of course, said Polish gasfitter might be registered with whatever | > the Polish equivalent of CORGI is[1] and so should, under mutual | > recognition of qualifications and free movement of labour within | > the EU, be allowed to practice in this country. | I was asked to do some gas work when I was on hols in Germany so I looked | into this. I was not able to find out anything from CORGI or elsewhere. | I was confident I new what I was doing and my german is just good enough | to be able to read the instructions and know what they mean - with a | little help from 'her'. There is no way I would tackle this in Poland.
That's because you speak a little German and less Polish :-) It's no reason for a Polish person not to work in Britain, if they speak good enough English.
If it's a decent combi boiler the instructions will probably be in German anyway.
Owain
Hmm,but i think the difference here is basic human error(something which is sometimes unavoidable)and indifference,arrogance,wrecklessness and incompetence. Transco really is the pantie liner on the arse of the gas industry. There is enough chaos now,with more to come,but without Transco,there would be more death and distruction.
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I have no idea if there are reciprocal agreements over gas fitting regs. If there are and there English is good enough I have no objection.
It seems that gas app. manufactuers seem to make stuff that's specific to GB+IE
Apart from language, it seems that there are differences in the calorific value of gas supplied and nominal system pressure as well.
I was just looking on the rating plate on the Aga, while giving it a clean and it lists GB+IE as one group. It then shows France and Belgium as another, there being 20 and 25mB systems, Germany at 20mB but apparently a different calorific value and Netherlands at 25mB and different again.
.andy
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