Interesting, I had not realised they had reused "green" so quickly... (most of the 16th edition books I had seen (or own) were the brown ones)
Yup, sorry for the avoidance of doubt, I was just commenting on the book colour rather than the reg itself.
The regulation itself obviously still applies, although has moved to
433.3.1 in the 17th Ed
You can actually get a double(ish) backbox designed to take two single accessories.
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with the lugs in the correct places for vertical usage?
Indeed:
=A311.06 here:
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wrestle those into a standard 35mm depth single-gang box, especially if there is no 'give' in the cables (e.g. embedded in plaster)
When I suggested two single-gang boxes one above the other, I did mean
47mm deep boxes, assuming the original is the same depth.6mm^2 is doable but takes some care - 10 would be hard. You can always set the box a little deeper into the wall to get an extra few mm.
one of each would be ok as well - since you could wire the socket in 2.5mm^2
... should have also said, you can get links such as:
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I got the impression from the OP that he was hoping for a swap with as little extra work as poss - maybe the existing cooker point is tiled around and he doesn't want to damage the tiles.
Digging out an existing, probably rusty, vertical 47mm dual-gang back box and replacing it with two singles might be do-able without too much damage to surrounding tiles, but probably not if he also has to make the recess deeper for one for cable clearance.
Anyway, those (yours and mine) are ideas for him to think about.
cheers M.
He will be a out of luck anyway then, since two singles are wider than one double.
A pain agreed, although doable. I would cut the tiles with a carbide segment saw on a multimaster and then take the rest out with a SDS.
My only remaining 16th edition book is blue. No pun intended.
and mine is yellow
Makes you wonder how much they make from the book given they seem to manage to find ways of selling every version many times!
Exactly so, though replacing the existing (fairly ancient) vertically-aligned back box with a horizontal new one wouldn't be totally out of the question (the surround is wallpaper, not tiles), probably wouldn't involve that much more work than fitting two singles vertically, and would of course allow a much wider choice of switch-and-socket plate.
Absolutely. Many thanks to you and to everyone else for thoughts and suggestions.
Bert
Hello Bert, We are at present changing the electrical plates in our kitchen. I do have a white vertical cooker/socket plate that may be what you want. When I am sure I can get my replacements all in a matching finish you will be welcome to have my existing plate. Our kitchen is at present work in progress but should be sorted in the near future. Keep in touch at snipped-for-privacy@handyman1510.plus.com or 01904 768516. Ian Mason
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