I would go there first.
..and I'm sure the second one is too.
Yes. They replace with the erqivallent. ThenI would pick up the second jigsaw and keep working.
...I can't speak for Argos buying and selling policy, but it was going for £60. Fabulous deal and very well made.
Figures.
So you think that they would replace a £6 unit with a £60 one? Dream on....
Well, as long as you are happy with it, then that's all that matters.
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Similar spec.
I am happy with both of them.
You're right - cheap !
That's a fifteen quid jigsaw for a mere £6
Think I'll stick with £120 for the Bosch. I can't afford something this cheap - it would cost me a fortune in smoothing poor edges, wasting time with bigger cut allowances, melting plastics onto the teeth and generally being rubbish.
Hopefully they'll break quickly, so people won't have to suffer by using them for long.
Yes, but that's because you're an idiot.
Oh another mentalist.
Be interesting to know how you managed all this time without a jigsaw - being so experienced at all things DIY - or just which model you're replacing with them?
I'm a great believer in having more than one of a power tool to avoid changing blades, etc - this certainly applies to drills when screwing down floorboards, and angle grinders when doing welding work. But I've not ever wished for two jigsaws...
And, indeed, they diddn't honor it when I went in.
Maybe if there was a lot of Speedfit pipe to cut?
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I bought a jigsaw and a power drill today after reserving them last night. The web prices were honoured, £6.00 and £7.12 respectively. (Wakefield, West Yorks)
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John
I was after a couple of the B&D 18V hammer drill for 27 quid, as the few completed examples I saw on ebay went for around 70.
for occasional use on thin materials, that;s a bargain.
wouldn't trust it for any kind of accurate use though.
A jigsaw with the right blade would do well.
I used one today. pretty accurate. Well far better than the B&D crap I had.
So you'd not agree with them that the Makita 4340CT is the 'best on test'? Next being Metabo STE 70? Then Bosch PST 850 PE? BTW, IMM as usual has got things wrong. Strange for one so adept at cut and paste. The Power Devil *did not* beat the DeWalt on test. Nor the two B&D models tested.
What was interesting was that the Wicks 710W Pendulum did so well, coming just behind the others I've listed as best on test - but at a fraction of the price. 19 quid would you believe, less than half the next 'better' one, and approx 1/9th the cost of the Makita...
They also tested and mentioned that cordless types were 'in general' a waste of time and money, unless you had no source of mains power.
I often wonder why people are so quick to criticise Which. Although, as in IMM's case, much of what it does say is inadequately - or just plain wrongly - reported.
Its purpose is to give a decent honest guide to the average consumer - not the serious hobbyist who would be expected to read the specialist mags and spend more time deciding for himself.
I'm curious about those who knock Which. It receives no public money, and describes the methods they use for testing. And can't be influence by advertising or having specially prepared products presented for testing. The publishing world is littered with examples of the commercial press getting things very wrong through just these reasons.
I usually take their advice when buying the sort of thing I'm not terribly interested in - washing machines, vacuum cleaners etc. And have always been happy.
Probably out of those three, that would be a reasonable order, but it's not really an apples to apples comparison, because the Bosch GST series is in price between the Metabo and the Makita with other reviews showing it as better than both.
They've set out a range of products from the low end to the high and attempted to compare them - the results aren't that surprising.
One has to be careful on prices. The Wickes one at £19 is a street price, whereas the typical street price of the Makita is around £115.
Also, it makes sense to look at both value for money figures as well as performance figures - generally this is what the specialist magazines do.
I've never seen a reason for one, although my usage tends to be at the bench, mainly.
I agree. I'm not criticising it for what it sets out to do, and it does do that reasonably well. The question was more one of how valuable that is. I would take Which as one data point when buying something, but not the only one, any more than any other review.
For tools, I tend to take a lot more care, simply because I am generally looking for higher end ones.
I agree, and I think that that's the point.
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What? Best on test, but taking into account price? You'd need to read the entire article to get the full info - as I think I'd suggested - but price, or indeed brand, doesn't always guarantee the best performance. The results are surprising. I'd suggest you read the article in full.
Power Devil was better quality in cutting than a DeWally. And cost about
3/6d.So you can buy 6 Wickes (Kress) jigsaws for one Makita. The choice is obvious for DIYers.
In my case? I didn't write the reports,
Those who have spent too much and can't accept the fact.
Where?
Ah. So you were quoting someone else's interpretation of test results. Nothing new there, then
I'd suggest you read the report carefully. The Power Devil was rated worse than the De Walt for accuracy of cut, although faster cutting wood. Which might just matter to some.
Not that I'm defending DeWalt - I'm not one for brand loyalty.
The endurance of the Wicks was poor. You gets what you pay for. Some DIYers actually use their tools - not leave them in a cupboard.
Just quoted it incorrectly. As with much else.
I did but didn't find them that surprising:
"Best on Test is the Makita 434OCT with an impressive total test score of 86 per cent. At around £175 it's not cheap so is best suited to the semi-professional or avid DIYer."
"If you're on a budget and don't mind compromising a little on cutting speed and quality, or if you just need a jigsaw for one or two tasks, pick the Wickes 710W pendulum jigsaw. At under £20 from Wickes it's fantastic value for money."
"If you want a Best Buy with a mid-range price tag, choose from the £50 Bosch PST 650 PE,the £80 Metabo STE 70, both available from independents, or the £90 Bosch PST 850 PE"
The Wickes one came in at 76% and was inferior to the Makita on most issues including safety and equal on others.
Predictably, the Wickes product started to deteriorate rapidly:
"But the bargain price tag comes at the expense of endurance. At the end of our 15-hour test, the jigsaw was not only very noisy, its motor bearings were clearly worn. Since it's so basic, it has neither an anti-splinter device nor a parallel guide."
So it's fantastic value for money for a short while according to Which?. Doesn't seem very interesting to me.
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