At last some sense, "Excuse me, you appear to have named your house the same as/similar to mine, as this is bound to cause confusion please change it forthwith". As to asking Royal Mail if they wouldn't mind changing, you don't, you tell them that it has changed and let them sort it out (mind you the bit about just telling the postie is eminently sensible, IME the men on the ground are very helpful and seem to be capable of sorting out many problems themselves).
If you enter your postcode into the postcode lookup at
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(leave the property details box empty) you should find what the Post Office Address File (PAF) thinks your address is. This is the oracle as far as addresses are concerned but as others have said it isn't made up by RM - they rely upon information from local authorities.
There was a problem where I lived several years ago. th builders started numbering at the high numbers in the road, and thendiscovered that the planned larger houses weren't selling well. So they substituted a block of four flats for some of the larger houses. Each time they were 3 numbers short. So a renumbering exercise (by the local authority -- who took on board all reasonable expenses involved -- such as altering deeds, notifying those who had my address, altering letterheads etc.) took place, my 106 became 129, but simultaneously the postcode changed. The postie was left to sort out deliveries. I only had one misdirected item of mail. The postie was excellent, and was greatly assisted by the postcode change.
Consider also that many of the services you may want will be using Satellite Navigation to find your property. There are only two main suppliers in the world for the UK maps that all the Sat Nav software suppliers use. Currently having a house number is a good idea whereas a house name should be something that should be avoided if you want to use services that rely on Sat Nav.
The oricle tells me my address is exactly as I already know it is - so what use is that?
I know my address. The problem is there are now two others with very similar ones ( ie same name , similar postcodes) and someone has to give and it has to be me cos I aint getting my mail and such , other people are.
House names are for urban types who live in streets ( and my " street" doesn't even have a name , it goes by the land registry title as " lane to the west of a lane going from ABC to XYZ
My lane is a private road ( I own it), it goes nowhere except to my fields and a river at the top. The main lane goes by the title of "lane that goes from ABC to XYZ .
Sat Nav is useless in my area - even the ambulance gets lost. OS refs works better. I am very isolated by most standards. My nearest neighbour is 20 mins walk away.
Hence if some idiot allows houses in the village two and a half miles away to have the same name , I scuppered. No one will look for me when they are so near and so visible are they?
By the way the issue is not so much with the post man who does seem to know where I am. Its other deliveries - parceline, TNT etc. But it seems they have more trade that the postie these days. It was in fact the post man who told me that there was another house - or two - with my name to cause confusion.
|!>>I can see the only solution to this is for me to change my name ( as the |!>>post office have allowed the other two to have our house name. They cannot |!>>be changed now , so I have to change, even though we had the name longest) |!>
|!> If you enter your postcode into the postcode lookup at |!>
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(leave the property |!> details box empty) you should find what the Post Office Address File |!> (PAF) thinks your address is. This is the oracle as far as addresses |!> are concerned but as others have said it isn't made up by RM - they |!> rely upon information from local authorities. |! |!The oricle tells me my address is exactly as I already know it is - so what |!use is that? |! |!I know my address. The problem is there are now two others with very similar |!ones ( ie same name , similar postcodes) and someone has to give and it |!has to be me cos I aint getting my mail and such , other people are.
How about changing it to "The original ????? accept no forgeries" ;-)
As far as I know, house numbers and names are allocated / agreed by the local District Council, or Unitary Authority/Metropolitan borough, under an old Public Health act (1936??). Might be worth having a word with them. This is why in some places roads are named after local councillors, etc.
Thats a nice one! Thank you. I had sort of got a name in mind , one which I thought was unusual enough not to get thought of again but it is very different to that I currently have which is not exactly common either to be honest. But " The Original...... " is much better.
Don't you mean "House numbers are for urban types who live in streets..."?
I don't think the road outside our house has a name either, it does have a classification number C that no one knows and isn't signed anywhere. It's know locally as the Garrigill Road as that is where it leads but again no name boards.
Yep Sat Nav (if it can use full post code not just 5 or 6 charcters) will get you close, about 1/2 a mile. And as we are right on the road that'll probably do but the other 4 delivery points are off the road and up to a mile apart, two are not visible from the road at all. The name of the houses/farms relates to an area not just the buildings.
Similar to here, the nearest as the crow flys neighbour is a longer walk than the next nearest unless one makes like a crow...
A very good point. Generally the posties are good because they know the peoples names and addresses. I'd fully expect something posted in this country addressed with simply surname and village name to get delivered without any trouble. I do have a fairly unique surname though, might be different with Bell or Walton in this area...
Sensible delivery drivers ask at the garage in town where we are, less sensible we see zooming past down to the village then come back up 10 minutes later after asking in the sub post office. A few are regular drivers for the area so "just know", like the Postie, where places are.
Having two or three places with the same name is just asking for trouble. I don't know what the correct approach is but I'd start with the softly softly one. Do a bit of research, find out when your place started to be called what it is, what their places where at that time etc then go and talk to the people at the other address's showing what you have found and the problems having the same names is causing. No one minds the odd bit of stray post but repeated wrong deliveries would become a PITA, so point that out to them rather than just complaining about your problem.
If that fails it looks like it's on to the local council and looking up what the legislation says. As it's under Public Health I suspect there maybe some reference to "unique addressing" in there, your historical data should help convince the council your right (or not!) to the name.
It tells you what every parcel delivery company thinks it is as well. They all use the PAF for addressing as do most companies for order checking etc.
Then you need to talk to your local authority. Even if you change the name it may take a long time to promulgate. Although the PAF is changed quite frequently not all subscribers take all updates and many users are 6-12 months or more out of date.
My postcode was changed 6 years ago. I still occasionally come across people who don't have the new postcode on their databases, and I then give them the old one and it finds the road.
I lost interest when it asked me to register first. However, a number of online ordering companies ask for your postcode, and then in my case give a dropdown list of about 10 house names and a nightclub to select from. For some reason, no properties in my road, which is in the middle of the town, are numbered. They all have names. Every other road around us is numbered as normal.
More would be the operative word. I still get mail addressed with a business name that I last used nearly ten years ago. It's still in the incompetent Post Office's database, despite numerous requests for them to remove it.
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