Can a hospital bed go upstairs?

[Tim French]

[Tim French]

[John Cartmell]

I was talking about one who, at that time, wasn't. One nurse was sufficient; two were more than adequate under all circumstances and all conditions of H&S; home nursing was refused unless lifting equipment was made available.

[Martin Davies]

My local shopping centre has two ground floors, depending on which direct you come from you use one then go up to the other, or down to the other. Buildings on some sort of slope aren't uncommon. Several buildings I've been in have been the same.

Martin <

[Warm Worm]

"Tim French"

That's nothing. During my last mission, we enountered a space anomaly that had my ship's decks and hallways constantly twisting shifting, where it became impossible to get anywhere we wanted to go. The bridge was engineering, engineering was sickbay, an attractive crewmember's quarters turned into mine, and so on...

[Martin Davies]

If one was sufficient then they could lift more safely than I ever could.

80pound weight? 100 pound weight? And not just lifting, lifting safely.

Lifting equipment can make things safer, more stable for the patient, and less likely to cause problems for staff. Could you personally handle shifting heavy weight on a regular basis, without any problems for the patient or you? If so, congratulations. For the rest of us mortals, H&S tries to make sure all sides are protected against problems. Doesn't always work, but gives some good guidelines.

Martin <

[Guy King]

The message from "Warm Worm" contains these words:

Find any pairs of size nine chukka boots?

[John Rumm]

Anything more than 35kg is defined as a two man lift by H&S these days. Can't be many adults that weigh less than that.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Especially since you can't assume the correct lifting position when getting someone out of bed.

[Phil Bradshaw]

MHOR say otherwise: avoidable manual handling.

[Warm Worm]

For which species?

[Phil Bradshaw]

Does it matter when arse and elbow likely go with the anomaly too?

[Warm Worm]

[Dave Fawthrop]

|John Cartmell wrote: |> In article , |> Martin Davies wrote: |>> John Cartmell wrote: |>>> In article , |>>> Dave Plowman (News) wrote: |>>>> In article , |>>>> John Cartmell wrote: |>>>>> My mother couldn't be nursed at home because regulations wouldn't |>>>>> allow two nurses to lift her without special lifting equipment. |>>>

|>>>> There are rightly so regulations about lifting. Do you know how |>>>> many medical staff end up with back complaints? |>>>

|>>> You're missing a very critical piece of information that I thought |>>> you might have guessed. Weight? |>

|>> Humans are pretty heavy. And not all nursing staff are weightlifters |>> in their spare time. |>

|> I was talking about one who, at that time, wasn't. One nurse was |> sufficient; two were more than adequate under all circumstances and |> all conditions of H&S; home nursing was refused unless lifting |> equipment was made available. | |If one was sufficient then they could lift more safely than I ever could. |80pound weight? 100 pound weight? And not just lifting, lifting safely. | |Lifting equipment can make things safer, more stable for the patient, and |less likely to cause problems for staff. |Could you personally handle shifting heavy weight on a regular basis, |without any problems for the patient or you? If so, congratulations.

You have a Bad Back or will have if you continue lifting heavy objects. I was this week talking to a Nurse who still has a Bad Back from lifting patients years ago

[Dave Fawthrop]

|In article , | John Rumm wrote: |> Anything more than 35kg is defined as a two man lift by H&S these days. |> Can't be many adults that weigh less than that. | |Especially since you can't assume the correct lifting position when |getting someone out of bed.

Impossible would be a better desciption.

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[Nick]

May be linked to fire safety issues? A disabled person would not be able to exit 2nd floor by alternative means (window, etc), leaving only the stairs as an exit route (with assistance). If stairwell is involved in fire ...

[Jonathan]

My now deceased mother had on one the first floor of an old Georgian House. It was fine.

Jonathan

[nightjar]

The Victorian houses I have lived in all had floor joists at least twice as deep as used in anything built post-war. Their floor loading would have been a lot higher. I would expect something similar in a Georgian house.

[Chris Hogg]

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I have a sneaking suspicion that after fifteen years, the problem has been sorted, one way or another.