Buy to lets

[Doctor Drivel]

Smoker will drain the NHS is funds as they will clutter the wards with smoking related diseases. No one gains with smoking . NO one at all.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Sadly my kill file seems to have been deleted, and your inane posts are drivelling through.

Actually the reverse is the case. E.g. my mother who is now in erament care ad has bee for the last two years, ad whose knowedge of aythng at all s less than yours s on everything put to gether, is a case in point/

£23k a year plus huge amounts of hospital acre. All because she hadn't the good sense to die quickly of lung cancer.

Its an established fact that the NHS MAKES money out of smokers, and loses it all to health nuts whose bodies carry on well beyond their minds. Just like yours. How much is all your mental health care costing the nation?

I think we should be told.

I you want to be a good socialist, kill yourself NOW.

[John Rumm]

There is 16Bn a year in tobacco duty so el gordo is happy.

[djc]

Quite, Prison works as a deterrent for the sort of people who are most unlikely to find themselves in prison, eg law abiding citizens.

[The Medway Handyman]

If someone coughs its in response to an irritant - that can be cigarette smoke granted, but a cough can be triggered by traffic pollution, pets, allergies, pollen, cooking fumes whatever - it doesn't mean its a health risk. Typically you choose to demonise cigarette smoke as being the only cause.

I'm not suggesting that active smoking is wonderful, although it does have some benefits (the evidence isn't PC so is therefore suppressed). What I'm saying is that the health risks of passive smoking are completely unproven - despite desperate attempts to do so.

Rather than clinging to an idea, I would suggest that I am able to see the wood for the trees. The demonising of smokers is based on false premises & bad science.

The trouble with 'blatantly obvious effects' is that they are at best circumstantial evidence.

As I said, give me credible scientific evidence instead of hysteria, hidden agendas, pharmaceutical company propaganda & vested interests and I'm happy to listen. Ad hominem attacks won't do the job.

Let me give you an example. I've seen figures that passive smoking kills respectively 9,000, or 11,000 Brits per year and/or 16,000 Europeans per year. All three figures obviously can't be correct. The BMA, UK Guvmint & the EU have all been challenged to provide evidence of these alleged figures and simply can't do so. First defence is to hide behind the data protection act.

The simplest proof would be if one single solitary death certificate gave the cause of death as Passive Smoke.

Not one single such certificate exists anywhere in the UK, Europe or the USA. Not one.

[The Medway Handyman]

And according to NHS figures 'smoking related diseases' cost them 1.5Bn.

[The Medway Handyman]

I think its you who have misssed the point Andy. We could have 'A' only locations, or 'A+B' locations - and the customers could choose. It's really very simple.

If the market chooses 80% A only thats fine. Its called free choice.

A pub local to me has reacted by advertising 'the best smoking area in Medway. Roof, heaters, lights, nice furniture, table service etc - and is packed out.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

And of course there's a good chance smokers don't live so long as non smokers so cost the country less in their retirement. Caring for the very elderly with dementia etc is a very expensive business.

Yet another example of dribble not understanding the most basic of economics.

[geoff]

In message , The Medway Handyman writes

And hawking up a load of phlegm in the morning is your body's way of telling you that whatever lies your mind is telling you, the body's not happy with that intake of tar and other dangerous substances you inflicted it with the previous evening

I really don't think so

I can think of no other drug which, rather than making you feel good, has no effect other than removing your need for it for a while after you have taken it. It gives no sense of wellbeing or euphoria once the immediate craving has been satisfied, it has no mind expanding properties (nicotine does have slight memory enhancement properties)

Stop making excuses for what is basically an anti-social pastime with no redeeming features

An addiction absolutely controls you, you can't turn it off, you can't live without it you are a slave to it's power over you

be man enough to break the dependency

I bet you can't

[Doctor Drivel]

They will spend their money on something else which is taxable, so no change.

[Doctor Drivel]

See my post. Give up smoking you pillock!

[Doctor Drivel]

I would hose the bastards out!

[Doctor Drivel]

Pubs are for consuming alcoholic drink not smoking.

[Doctor Drivel]

Yep! Like having a urinating section in swimming pool.

[geoff]

In message , The Medway Handyman writes

Well, of course it would be

... if there's nowhere else for those addicted to nicotine to be able to satisfy their habit in comfort

[geoff]

In message , Doctor Drivel writes

Lets be honest - you wouldn't

you're not man enough to show your face

[John Rumm]

Unlikely to be taxable at 500 - 1000% though is it.

[John Rumm]

Gosh you are a scary man....

behind your fake name and keyboard at least.

[Doctor Drivel]

We never had a choice. We had to put up with selfish prats filling an enclosed space with toxic fumes.

Our freedom to be free of breathing in toxic substances was denied. We have the right to go into any public space and not breath in toxic fumes which affect our health.

[Doctor Drivel]

You must eff off as you are a total idiot.