Hello, Looking for taps for the new bathroom. We had decided to fit wall mounted taps, something along the lines of this :
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while browsing this web-site, we have also discovered 4 tap-hole mixers with a pull-out shower head which I also like very much. e.g.
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we decide between the two, does anyone know whether there is anything which might combine the two ideas, i.e. a wall mounted filler with a pull-out shower head. I have to admit that I can't really imagine how such an arrangement might work but if anybody has seen anything along these lines I would be most grateful to hear about them.
There are other ways to handle this, so I will repost something I wrote earlier:
Right. For completeness I will try to cover the whole system. As we went for a large capacity bath, and water capacity had to be increased, I took the opportunity to have the whole heating system re-vamped.
I have a Worcester Greenstar 28HE condensing boiler and a conventional vented system. The larger hot water cylinder was moved to the garage where we have also fitted a Monsoon twin 4 bar pump.
The outputs from this pump go to a Bristan Prism thermostatic shower valve, mounted in the usual way.
From this the mixed output goes to a Bristan Prism 5-way diverter. (It is hidden on their web site, searches don't turn it up)
(If you will forgive me a quick ramble, this is where we fell foul of Bristan's bizarre nomenclature. Their three-way valve has two inputs (one to be blanked off) and two outputs. To get three outputs needs a five-way valve. Go figure.)
The three outputs go to a wall mounted shower, a bath-side pencil shower and a bath filler.
The Bristan bath filler looks like a slightly bigger pop-up waste, and combines in one device pop-up waste control, overflow and water inlet.
So, for a normal shower, set the diverter and turn on the shower.
We went for the Raindance Unica. This site sold us on it, and we are very pleased with the result
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a bath, centre the diverter, select the temperature and just let it fill. No fiddling with a bit more hot, a bit more cold, oops got it wrong again.
If, having luxuriated in the bath, you want to rinse the shampoo out of your hair, select the pencil shower, withdraw the hose out of the bath side, and away you go. It is also handy for bath cleaning.
It took a bit to convince the installers that what I wanted was feasible, and even then I had to produce a piping diagram and personally supervise every step.
The end result works well, just as we had hoped. If I have any technical gripe, it is that the diverter does not completely seal off the unselected outputs, so they can drip a little when not wanted, but this is not a big problem.
There are equivalents to the parts we used available from a number of other manufacturers, but this is clearly not yet a mainstream solution.
Chris, Thanks for the reply, you've opened up a new avenue of plumbing for me, never having used diverters of any kind before. I think I understand your arrangement but I'm not sure that it would work for me in the same way. We have the advantage of a fairly large bathroom thanks to the recent extension we built. The plan is to put the bath and the main shower in diagonally opposite corners of the room so a single diverter for the two is probably not appropriate for us. That said I suppose I could find a way of using a three way diverter at the bath to select between the bath filler and the pencil shower, but this brings me back around to the original problem of where to mount the pencil shower if we use a wall mounted filler. Is it possible to purchase a pull-out pencil shower separately ?
Not easily. I think my fitters had to pretend they had lost (or been short-shipped) the parts from a four-hole bath set. At their first attempt they tried a standard hose, whose fittings were too big to thread through.
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