Bar shower installation - is this acceptable?

[larkim]

Had a "pro" install a bar shower. He also added waterproof board and did t he tiling, so had all of the necessary flexibility to ensure that all joins were made perfectly.

The final installation looks like this:-

So it is a) uneven left to right and b) shows some of the brass screw threa d showing.

Uneven left to right is certainly not acceptable (IMHO). But the installer says "I will have a look at it but it is quite standard for pipe work on a bar shower as shown to be evident as the male inserts move round to level up the bar shower valve and tighten on the PTFE tap at different points."

True?

Thanks for any help in advance!

Matt

[Bob H]

You can always check if it is falling left to right with a spirit level.

[larkim]

id the tiling, so had all of the necessary flexibility to ensure that all j oins were made perfectly.

hread showing.

ller says "I will have a look at it but it is quite standard for pipe work on a bar shower as shown to be evident as the male inserts move round to le vel up the bar shower valve and tighten on the PTFE tap at different points ."

Yes, of course. But it is the exposed screw thread that seems unusual - I don't think I've ever seen that, and leads me to think that something about it is botched.

Thanks!

Matt

[Bob Minchin]

The fittings I've seen for these are chrome plated and so the exposed part at least matches the rest of the mixer.

[A.Lee]

I fitted an expensive Bristan mixer today, and like yours, there was no way it could be adjusted so that the thread could not be seen. This one had brackets that attached to the tile face, then the outer cover is screwed onto that, then the bar mixer was connected. There was at least

7mm of thread showing.

Other ones I have fitted came without the tile brackets, and these had to be secured behind the tiles, and there, you had to be really accurate when fitting the pipes and tiles, as a few mm out and it made it either messy, or you could not fit the mixer, as not enough thread was showing.

Yours is not perfect, and with a little more time could be made slightly neater, but they are difficult to get right, especially if the mixer is not top quality.

[John Rumm]

Looking straight at the bar, you would expect it to be level. However looking from the angle of your photo, I can only see about 1 threads difference in separation from the wall, which is really nothing to worry about. The exposed screw thread is probably chromed rather than brass, and its not that unexpected if you can see a bit of it.

Yes.

Its possible to do away with the use of the inserts and mount the valve directly onto the pipes - but then you have to get the pipework spot on position wise. The way John S shows it done with a ply former here is quite a good way of doing that.

[mark]

The final installation looks like this:-

So it is a) uneven left to right and b) shows some of the brass screw thread showing.

Uneven left to right is certainly not acceptable (IMHO). But the installer says "I will have a look at it but it is quite standard for pipe work on a bar shower as shown to be evident as the male inserts move round to level up the bar shower valve and tighten on the PTFE tap at different points."

True?

I have a Grohe shower bar and fixing kit, waiting be fitted. Out of curiousity following this post, I've just gone and dry assembled them and there is one turn of thread showing.

With yours if the length of the male threaded part is longer than the female thread of the nut then it doesn't matter who assembles them there will be thread showing. I would expect the exposed thread to be equal though. I had to turn both nuts at the same time.

mark

[larkim]

Thanks to all who've replied - very helpful indeed, and reassuring! I guess I was sold a pup by the pics on the packaging which don't show any threads exposed like that.

All of what you say chimes with a conversation that I've just had with the installer, so I'll get off my high horse and give him his due for a job well done!!!

Thanks

Matt

[YAPH]

I've moved on from that a bit (but not updated the page - sorry).

By far the easiest way to mount bar-type shower valves is with these sorts of things:

You use these with the cone-shaped decorative pipe thread covers that come wit all shower valves I've ever fitted.

You can also get them (more expensively) with the sort of chromed drum- shaped covers shown in the OP's photo, from other suppliers on eBay or from Toolstation, and Aqualisa do one too.

The dimensions of these are such that it's practically impossible to avoid a few millimetres of thread showing.

[Donatello]

Could you tell me what product you mean? This is a dead link.

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[pcb1962]

One of these I suspect:

Don't just hang the mixer on the pipes.

[michaelrichardball]

oh man, I thought I'd make the job easier and bought a Marflow shower pl8 b ut the straight threaded connectors are missing. Does anyone know where I could buy replacements? They are to connect 15mm pipe to the mixer bar ie they will have a 22mm thread on the outside that the mixer screws onto.

[michaelrichardball]

I mean 15mm to 1 inch