I know this isnt a diy question, but us diy'ers use vacuum cleaners after our work.What do people think of these bagless cleaners? I've had a couple of Dysons, they suck well but when they are emptied I get dust particles flying up in the air even after sealing it with a bag ,plus after a few months they look mucky through the see thru' plastic , I agree bags will slowly reduce the suction, but by how much? will it be noticable..anyway I got fed up with my dirty Dyson and now have got a very good bagged cleaner and when its full I slide it off and into the bin ,no dust particles flying at all..very very clean!
I think Dysons are a triumph of clever marketing but I still prefer one with a bag. (One advantage of dysons is that bagged hoovers* are now much cheaper)
I agree that dysons can be a little messy when emptying but I have never really had a problem with it. Perhaps that's because we have wheely bins round here so you can hold the cylinder right at the bottom of the bin when emptying.
As for the plastic being dirty you can clean it along with the rest of the gubbins.
After using our dyson for DIY for about 6 month (sucking up filler dust and other fine particles) I noticed it didn't suck as well as it did before (yes I had been cleaning the motor filter). I noticed that the little perforations in the collection chamber were nearly all blocked but there is no way, normally, to get to them and clean them.
I intend to put together a page about how to clean the canister but here are a few quick instructions:
1)Open the base as you would to empty the contents and leave it open (this is needed to remove the clear plastic cylinder).
2)Remove the three screws on the top
3)Lift off top. It will be very dirty in here.
4)Push release clip on the front and take off clear plastic cylinder
5)Carefully slide vanes down. This can be hard but they do come off.
6)Pull off perforated plastic
Note: The top section doesn't come to bits. It seems to be glued together.
7)Take all the parts outside and spray with hose giving the clear plastic a bit of a scrub if needed. There are no metal parts to go rusty and mine has suffered this treatment a few times. If you have the multiple cyclone types DC07 squirt water down the cyclones from the top.
8)Once clean (it can take a bit) give the top bit a really good shake to get water out. There are some very twisty pipes in there which seem to love holding onto water. Place in the airing cupboard for at least 3 days probably more like a week until you can't hear water when you shake it.
9)Put everything back together. Make sure you have the opening rod in the opening hole _before_ you close the base.
10)Marvel at you clean dyson and the fact it now sucks like new.
The Henry wins as it is a bagged or bagless cleaner. You can use bags if you want, but it will work without. So your normal household cleaning can use the bags. When you're doing serious DIY rubble work which isn't worthy of the expense and doesn't require the extra filtration, forget the bag.
I don't know if all bagless vacs are the same, but Dyson is not much use for DIY. If you create fine dust then the filters clog as quick in a flash. I have 2 vacs, a Dyson for normal household and a bagged one that is actually designed for cleaning very fine dust, such as laser printers, I got it VERY cheap. Don't ask!
The Henry filter is a circle of material about 50cm in diameter. It is nigh on impossible to clog and you clean it by shaking it over the bin (outdoors) when you empty it after using it bagless. I imagine it won't require cleaning if you use bags.
To make this a diy question. I use a dyson, not new, for my workshop,which is slightly modified for picking up slightly larger shavings etc. Just saw off the front of the grey holder for the roller brush. To unblock the channel from roller to rear of machine i use a metal rod, takes 5 secs. Any blockage anywhere else use air gun. As i empty this quite often the bag idea is impractical.
"Howard" wrote | Yes , the answer is to go outside,but,say if your on the | top floor of a 10 storey block and the lifts are broke
Then you empty it over the balcony and rely on the fact that no-one's going to climb up 10 flights of stairs to remonstrate with you -- or that even if they do they'll be too puffed to throw a decent punch.
Yeah I stupidly gave my cheepo bagged vacuum cleaner away (although it went to a needy cause) when we moved house thinking the dyson was the ultimate vacuum cleaner. Dysons are great for general house hold dirt but terrible with fine dust.
Sure does work if theyre designed right. I had a cloth filter one that looked all of 50 years old, still working fine.
I'm wondering why folk are saying bagged is better than cyclone though. The only difference is bags reduce suction, and partially clog, reducing it much further. And they often clog quickly on building dust, depending on bag design. Any other difference is down to the individual hoover design, not down to bag vs cyclone. Cyclone is very much superior. Try a non-dyson cyclone.
The choice is yours, either a clean house or a clean vacuum cleaner. The Dyson wins hands down. Bag vacuum cleaner are just total s**te PERIOD
Vac your floors with a new bagged cleaner using a new bag, then when you think they are clean, fit a new bag and see that your cleaner thinks your floors are really clean. Now take a new Dyson and see how much crap you pick up from your supposedly clean floors. NO ONE who sees this would ever use a bagged cleaner again unless they were terminally stupid/filthy.
Stick the thing in a cupboard after you finish using it and then you don't have to look at it.
We had a demo from Kirby, he picked a square foot of carpet and got us to go over it 50 times with our existing vac, he then put a filter between the fan and the bag and went over it once, it picked up a fair bit of crud. He also pointed out that carpets wear due to fine grit at the bottom which abrades the fibres and breaks them off which is why our old vac bag was full of carpet fibres. We bought a second hand one and at the same time a cheap rug. We have two boys who play on the rug and we walk on it daily, just as he said, the rug is still looking good ( not flat and dull like we'd have expected ) after 4yrs of heavy use. The bag is always full of dust not fibres as he said it would be. My hayfever has gone from needing an inhaler to needing the odd off the shelf antihistamine on really high pollen count days. We also have a bagless vac which my wife uses ( I admit the Kirby is bloody heavy ) and emptying that always results in clouds of dust ( I try not to breath for the few seconds it takes to tip it in the wheely bin and run back inside ). The Kirby isn't just a vac by the way, there is a carpet shampoo attachment, and an airgun type spray ( did our fences with it as the fence paint was water based ). We where aprehensive paying £300 for a used vac but 4yrs later it's still going strong whereas a friend at work is on her third Dyson now....
you think they are clean, fit a new bag and see that your cleaner thinks your floors are really clean. Now take a new Dyson and see how much crap you pick up from your supposedly clean floors. NO ONE who sees this would ever use a bagged cleaner again unless they were terminally stupid/filthy.
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