Apprentices and charity work

[charles]

or it might be that the "allotted hours don't exist."

[charles]

you obviously haven't noticed how Westminster keep moving goal posts.

[Tim Watts]

On Monday 09 September 2013 17:54 Dave Plowman (News) wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Ofsted still want their paperwork and the DofEd are constantly fiddling with the curriculum and procedures.

[Tim Lamb]

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

I'm one. Also son and grandson x 2 of and I'm perfectly normal:-)

Yes. Or having to work very hard to meet parental expectations with inadequate material.

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[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Tim Lamb escribió:

Ouch. :-)

[alan]

Maximum teaching time = 1140 hours/annum (assuming no free periods when kids are attending)

Working time in a normal job (37hr/week with 5 weeks paid holiday) =

1702 hours/annum

Difference for marking and lesson preparation = 562 hours or equivalent to 15 weeks/annum. This leaves 5 weeks paid holiday + bank holidays and no weekend working.

[soup]

Why? Is she crap at what she does.

[Dave Liquorice]

And the materials required for the lessons need to be prepared/made available/ordered.

[Dave Liquorice]

Assuming an hour for lunch. Many schools only have 45 min lunch breaks these days. A teacher will be lucky to get 30 mins by the time they have sorted out the classroom and prepared it the work for the next lesson.

7 working hours is same as a normal 9-5er and still longer than the 6 quoted above.

[Dave Liquorice]

These days? With everything coming with moulded on plugs for the last

20+ years.

I agree that something like that could be a very useful indicator of a candidates aptitude and initiative.

[Adrian]

Exactly.

Who ever felt "called" to be an accountant? Nobody.

And that's vocational. As in "vocational qualification". Different thing.

Yes, it could.

Exactly.

And that correlates with fish prices how?

[Adrian]

[Dave Liquorice]

Our primary school took it into its head that any of the teaching staff couldn't apply the sun creme that the parents had been asked to send in with their children. Need less to say the Reception Class classroom got covered... and a number of other children got in a right mess.

It's not often I take issue with things but this one got my goat, what happened to "in loco parentis" and "duty of care"? And if any of the teaching staff are into kiddie fiddling what does that say about the LEA's vetting procedures/policies? Just use the normal procedures, never be alone with a child, have another adult present etc.

[Andrew Gabriel]

The main thing I remember was having to chew lots of antiseptic chewing gum, which fortunately I quite liked, and would otherwise never have been allowed.

[ARW]

And you would expect that someone who has passed CDT/DT or whatever it is called these days can use a tool other than a mobile phone.

I heard about this place opening today on the radio.

I like the idea.

[bert]

So if they're not lucky they're at the school for 8 hours?

[Bob Eager]

Would that be above the national average for someone with years of training and 10 years' experience?

[Bob Eager]

And very, very few in a secondary school day. Too expensive.

[Bob Eager]

Don't be stupid. She has actually won teaching awards, as it happens. It's the sheer volume of work.

[Adrian]

It would be the national average for everybody. That's the thing about the national average. It's the average of the nation.