Anyone know what an IDEAL ISAR 30HE boiler is like?

[dennis]

They are fitting one for someone I know under the warm start scheme and I wondered if they are any good? They are very small compared to others I have seen.

[John Stumbles]

They have a reputation for a certain amount o trouble with their electronics - PCBs blowing in a big (circuit fuse blowing, charred hole in PCB) way.

[George]

Really! I have one installed by the same scheme(Warm Front)its been in 3.5 years now and is the HE30. Not had any trouble except it keeps switching the CH off when set to manual I put this down to the Danfoss unit in the hall?

[dennis]

Is that a wireless unit? They haven't installed that yet so I don't know what it is apart from it being wireless.

The fitters are nice.. they have fitted my pressure reducing valve and thermostatic mixer for nothing.

Its quite complicated too as there are two showers to plumb in that are on gravity feed ATM.

The only thing is they don't do vertical rads and there isn't much space in the bathroom so I have had to buy one that they are fitting.

I wanted to fit air sourced heat pump units myself but warm front don't appear to know what they are. 8-(

[John Rumm]

I fitted a HE35 to my last place about 4.5 years ago. Seemed to work well and so far has not had any major issues (needed a DHW temperature probe changed - but that was fairly painless and the built diagnostics identified the bit to replace). Performance is good and cheap to run. Build quality of the mechanical bits seems good (Si coated HE, down firing burner etc), although the smallness of it may make fixing problems later more labour intensive.

That was one of the key reasons why I chose it for that application - it needed to fit a space formerly occupied by a Gloworm fuelsaver F which was also fairly compact.

[geoff]

In message , "dennis@home" writes

They are about as good as your concept of the law and speeding

looks good on paper, but doesn't work in practice

You should buy one - you'll find yourself too busy to spend your time typing drivel here

[geoff]

In message , George writes

I have a customer who has just sent 130 Isar modules in for repair

They are the new Suprima

[geoff]

do you really need the opening scene from Macbeth ?

[George]

Perhaps he should take up another type of proffession?

[geoff]

In message , George writes

You're not up to speed on this, are you ?

[John Rumm]

Shame you didn't mention that before I bought mine! ;-)

(still hopefully I have sold it now)

[John Stumbles]

So does that make it worth your while buying in a couple of boxes of transformers then?

[geoff]

I have to buy 200 minimum at a time from ERA at £6 each

[John Stumbles]

One box then. Bet you're glad to have the 130 repairs come in (assuming most/all need xfmrs)

[dennis]

Anyway its all installed, took them two days. Took the old heaters and some other stuff out and cleaned up.

The warmfront man said everything would be surface mounted as that's all they pay for ( no trunking, etc.) but they took the floor boards up and put the drops in trunking ( even if I had to supply the clips as I had the correct ones for the trunking and they didn't 8-) ). Very happy so far.

GM Heating if anyone wants some work done.

[geoff]

in this batch, 40% required transformers

However, they all have another fault

if it was just transformer replacement, it would be simple

[Dave Plowman (News)]

How on earth did they manage to find transformers that fail so regularly? Overloading?

[geoff]

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

It seems to be an across the board problem with ERA transformers - whether they are underspecced or just crap, but the Ferroli MF03 and glowworm compact with the same make of transformer suffer from the same problem

[Andy Hall]

Are they fitted in a position up above the heat exchanger? i.e. cooking from that source? Even so, it's still poor product.

[Doctor Drivel]

All Ideal boilers are garbage. A waste of sheet metal.