Wondering if this door closer would be a good option - just want it to keep a couple of rooms cosy in cold weather. The kids keep leaving the doors open - this would keep em closed.
Are they a pig to fit?
Any advice gratefully received!
Mike
I guess your problem is that the rising butt hinges bring the door almost clsoed and you want something that will 'click' the latch. I think there are gadgets that do this but this is not one of them.
I've fitted these in the past. They were easy to fit but did not work too well. the closing force is stongest when the door is open and weakest when it is nearly closed. So: (1) the door still does not 'click shut' if it's been left slightly open and (2) if it's left wide open it whams shut with a loud bang and always worries me that someone's finger might get taken off by it.
Robert
I've never fitted on but I would guess the up and down travel of the door would interfere with the operation. I would have thought the door would be moving more than the width of the chain.
There's an instruction manual on the same page. I don't see how it would work with rising butts
If the rising butts are lubricated they might close the door on their own
Rising butts will normally close the door to on their own. Do you want the door to close automatically in the summer? If not you may have to put a wedge under it or find a system that can be easily disabled as required.
This closer cannot be used with rising butt hinges - the lifting and dropping action of the door will cause problems.
They are easy to fit and adjust - but not with rising butts. (As a matter of interest, these are usually used on heavy fire resistant doors as a 'secret' automatic door closer).
If the rising butt hinge pins and slots are clean and oiled they will normally close the door to the point where the mortice latch (or rim latch) friction will stop it entering the rebate - but that should be sufficient to keep most of the heat in the room (it is possible to adjust these to ease the friction).
If the door still refuses to close after cleaning and oiling the hinges, try moving the top hinge slightly towards the rebate and the bottom one slightly away -so that the door is in effect 'leaning' towards the closing jamb (out of plumb) - and this will assist the action of the hinges.
Cash
Good advice here, but what is a problem in this case is the friction from the carpet which tends to stop the butt hinges working in the way you suggest. I perhaps should have mentioned that before. Thanks
Take some off the bottom of the door then.
Mikeyboy,
Without seeing the job, that then would suggest to me that the hinges are not properly fitted anyway and would need some adjusting on the frame/door - but as Stuart says in his post, ease the bottom of the door just enough to let the door drop properly into the rebate (may be the lesser of evils).
As a matter of interest, rising butts are designed so that the door can rest on top of the carpet when fully closed.
Cash
How should they be fitted in fact then? The rising butts I mean. Any online source of advice? Clearly I can trim the bottom off the door, but I would do that as a later option. Important to get the hinges in the right place first?
Unless you have a gap at the top of the door, one assumes they are in the right place. 3mm all round is about right. Usual thing is that the door bottoms aren't trimmed when a thicker floor covering is put down. They sort of close, so nobody bothers.
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