A really bad piece of work.

[Ed Sirett]

This was sub-standard inspection, what was put in the box on the form for the gas soundness test?

[Ed Sirett]

No: the two fittings that fit into the barrel are both taper and fit nicely.

[BigWallop]

It's the last two words which do have the biggest bearing on the matter. Minimal Cost to a manufacturer can mean life or death on today's market. The product they make might be slightly safer, it could be 100% more safe, but if there's a cheaper one people can use without any further obligation, the cheaper one will sell out and leave the much safer one on the store shelf.

Sorry fact that "minimal cost" has a huge bearing on everything now-a-days.

[Tim S]

Ed Sirett coughed up some electrons that declared:

Hi Ed,

Just found the original form CP1/"Gas Safety Certificate"

The soundness box is blank.

Cheers

Tim

[Man at B&Q]

Apart from in one's trousers.

MBQ

[Man at B&Q]

Please don't ever do any gas work. You are obviously not competent.

MBQ

[Ed Sirett]

Well, well.

[dennis]

Not worth the paper it isn't printed on then?

[Tim S]

Ed Sirett coughed up some electrons that declared:

I wish I'd known more about matters gaseous then...

Please could you tell me: is it expected to complete a soundness test always for a Gas Safety Cert (I would have thought so, but then I don't have the rule book)?

Cheers

Tim

BTW - you probably won't recall, but I called CORGI about this bloke, mostly regarding the fact that he left me wish a lazy gas valve on a Bermuda Baxi back boiler which caused a stink of gas everytime it started due to the fact I guess that it took the valve about 30 seconds to fully open. That matter was resolved by another fitter coming out and dealing with the problem. But I didn't think (or know) to raise the soundness test, or lack of, at the time :(

[geoff]

but with a couple of brain cells, you could work it out

It;s not a mistake, it's lack of a clue

[Mike]

That'll be a plastic carrier bag then :)

[Mike]

The idiot referred to in this link probably had it wired correctly and it still killed him.

[Ed Sirett]

Well I've just looked in the "book" (Essential Domestic Gas Safety ISSN 1456- 6332).

It more or less says: Landlord must maintain a safe gas installation, appliances and flues.

Therefore there is a duty to inspect the meter and installation pipework.

It is however not legally binding except in as much as it's the Landlord's duty...

If you have no loyalty to the fitter then a call to CORGI will work wonders. CORGI will probably simply have a word with him about the fact that half a job may render his backside uncovered.

[Andy Dingley]

These are quite common on cuprous alloys. Take a look at "bronze disease" affecting museum artefacts already being stored in benign environments and the grief you have to arrest that once it's started.

[Tim S]

Ed Sirett coughed up some electrons that declared:

Thanks Ed. Sounds like what I have isn't really worth the paper it's scribbled on...

I've been reading bits of the Viper Domestic Natural Gas Handbook courtesty of Viper's 7 day online free trial, and it is certainly interesting.

Could you recommend any other titles that are a worth a browse?

I think, whether one intends to attempt gas work or not, it's worth having a basic knowledge so you know if the person you're supposed to trust is in fact doing a thorough job or not.

Cheers

Tim

[Ed Sirett]

The Viper book is considered the "Bible" for Domestic Gas Fitting. Many training/assessment centres often produce their own version being chunks of the Viper Book and the BS Standards. Essential Gas Safety is only available form CORGI to Members which give a lot of guidance, it just that if you followed /everything/ in that book you never be able to go to any place without there being /something/ wrong.

[Mike]

Which really says it all.

Time someone scanned their 'words of wisdom' and released it free of charge on the net.