We recently had Roto-Rooter come out and snake out our sewer connection.
Apparently tree roots were clogging the pipes so they were cleaned out.
Getting rid of the roots is only a temporary problem and the Roto-Rooter guy
told us that the root problem was on the city side of the sewer and they
would be responsible for repairing it. Well, we gave the city (Roswell,
Georgia) a call and they sent a guy out and he told us that they can't do
anything because we don't have a sewer clean out in our yard. Our house is 30
years old so I guess they didn't put them in back then.
Does anyone know how much these cost to install? The city wants to charge
$1400 but I think this is way too much. Anyone have a similar experience?
never heard of such a thing.
Here we put the main clean-out in the basement right before it exits through
Typically the problem you describe is on the homeowner side of things;
usually in the front yard.
The town sewer is in the street and you tie into that.
I am not saying it is impossible for what roto-router said to be true, but
it sounds unlikely.
As for what the town said, I am shocked that not having a clean out in the
front yard is their "out".
What difference does it make if you use the one in basement or one a couple
feet downstream out in the yard?
I would like to know myself how you make out and what the rules are exactly.
Ask the town where exactly the clean-out needs to be.
Ask them if you dig it up to install clean-out and they find the problem to
be the city's problem will they reimburse you.
Sorry I can't be any help really.
BTW the 1400 does not sound way out of wack.
Here in SoCal we have what we call 'property line clean-outs. Usually 18"
back from the side-walk. The City won't do anything without one. They don't
want to be liable for coming onto your property.. But if you have one, and
there are roots past it, this city will take care of replacing that section
of line. And if the City will do it for $1400, sounds right to me.
It's just a 'T' (more likely a 'Y' and a 45) installed in the lateral. Call
a licensed plumber for another estimate. There's some digging involved, and
maybe the plumber will let you do it. If it's too deep, it should be done
with a back hoe and someone experienced in working down in a ditch.
According to British Common Law, the municipality owns a 'road allowance'
which is 6 chains or 66'. Therefore the portion of drain 33' from the
middle of the road is town'ps respons to main'tn.
Common Law is the basis of NAmerican&Aussie Laws and applies just about
everywhere with the exception of Quebec and some parts of the Louisianna
purchase referred to as parishes.
Price is reasonable, given that trenches do cave in and kill many
Oh good grief.
What goofy DIY wannabe book did you read that in?
Road widths vary. Property lines vary. Utility easements vary. R.O.W.
easements vary. That said, homeowners can be responsible to either their
specific property line, the utility easement line, or the actual city main.
This is a jurisdictional mandate that will vary from city to city. There is
no "magic" measurement from the center of a road.
There is also no "standard" code that requires a cleanout at the property
line. But... any incorporated municipality is free to create their own
specific codes whether other areas do so or not.
As to the $1,400 price - If the line can be hand dug (less than 4' deep) -
it's too much for almost anywhere in the USA.
If it's 5' or deeper and/or requires excavation equipment - it is a fair
There's a slice and dice home repair roto-rooter style attachment from
available for rent from Home Depot that deals with the root thing fairly
cheap ~$75. Then you have to follow-up with a root-killer poison to
prevent the roots from growing again and it pretty much kills off all
ground-life in it's path to the ocean.
Normally, it's not effective because the drainwater/poison runs at the
bottom of the pipe and the roots come down from above, hence a big waste
of money as the roots grow downward from the top fairly quickly.
Flooding the drain will not work to reach the top roots with poison.
There isn't enough pressure to fill the drain without blocking the other
end and allowing the air out in order to allow the drainpipe to fill
$1400. to get a ditchwitch and lay a new and absolutely clean
drainageway is a far more than reasonable price, and extremely
cost-effective in the long run. Expect $3000. at jobs end unless you
know the person. (Still a reasonable price in the long run).
Heavy equipment or hard labor and time. $1400 is real cheap for a major
recurrent problem. Brother's a plumber, dad's a gardener, other brother
runs heavy equipment. Run a new drain line.
(Me? I run data transfer.)
Had a girlfriend who had to go through this exact same thing with her
grandmothers house. Problems?
Took the roots about two months to clog things back up thoroughly using
Someone sent you a genie in a bottle from the distance. Thanks would be
nice but not necessary in my line of work.
(Life - Cut the resolution, pathetic, and indicative of current
Note: Brother's a 30yr ga certified plumber, I'm a 30yr pc tech. You
should talk to your next door neighbor. "It's" likely they have the
same problem. I'm thinking of going into psychology at this rate.
Found me here where PCs and Plumbing exist together.
Who's toe did I stand on?
You're talking to the PC and in the groups. There is NO distinction of
neighbor. Pipes exist in Atlanta, posted to Atlanta, answered as best
available from Atlanta.
Don't like it? Move out of Atlanta, or contribute and make it a sane
place for posting. You're not doing that... Republican?
(Words only hurt when they betray a person.)
Actually, that's the funny thing about "certification". If you offer
medical advice, someone takes it and dies, you CAN'T be sued over it
because you DON'T have a medical license. If your Uncle does the same
thing, he can get the shit sued outta him.
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