Here's what I did.
I went to the Lowes website and used the search term, "Exterior doors". I
will go there now and list the categories that come up. Actually the term
they use is "Entry doors".
Oh duh! And now I see when I look at the left side of the screen, there
are 4 listings for wood entry doors. I had not seen that before. I just
looked at the big pictures that say: In-Stock, Steel, Fiberglass, Energy
Star, Decorative and Hardware.
But still... They sell 748 Fiberglass and 464 Steel doors. Only 4 wood?
Seems that wood is not so popular now. Then when I used my Swagbucks search
engine, the first hit I got was for a site that sells really fancy doors
that cost over $1,000.
It's a very lightweight door which is why I think they put the jury rigged
plastic kickplate on it.
Daughter and I came home once and I was in a hurry to get into the house. I
pushed the door open quickly, not realizing that my husband was in the
laundry room. I still snicker as I remember this. The door is lightweight
enough not to injure him but it did send him flying into the wall. Our
laundry room isn't very big so my daughter and I saw him splat sort of
splayed out and flat into the wall. We thought it was hilarious. Husband?
Not so much.
Yes. My mom is selling her house. It was built in 1962. It was built
well. It's just that codes have changed over the years and some things were
not up to code.
We are getting a new roof. We don't have any vents. Or the kind of vents
that a roof needs. We have to have those put in to make it up to code which
is a good thing. He said the garage in particular was quite bad. It gets
very damp in there.
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:47:33 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
Who says you have to change things to make it up to code? Are you
confusing what a "home inspector" squaks about with what is actually
required by code? Normally, probably 90%+ of what was built to code
at the time it was built is not required by law to be brought up to
current code, meaning you could get a CO and sell the house to a
buyer. An example of an exception would be smoke detectors. But the
town isn't going to require you to bring the electrical system up to
current code. A home inspector is free to squak about anything he
wants to. And if you want to sell the house to his buyer, then you
may have to fix what he's squaking about or give a discount, but if
what they are squaking about is unreasonable, you could also find
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:55:52 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
And a bad one can find multiple "alleged" code violations too.
It sounds like you are conflating several things. Let's take the
example of roof venting. If a house was built to the code at the time,
in most jurisdictions, as long as the roof venting met the code at the
time the roof went on, then the house is grandfathered because most of the
codes are not applied retroactively. So, I'm guessing you hired a
home inspector and he looked at the roof. He might have said that the
roof looks like it's in the middle of it's life, but that in his opinion,
it should have more venting. In that case, as long as the roof venting
met the code at the time it was built, it's not a code violation. You
could get a CO and buy the house if you chose to. You can probably choose
to not buy the house unless the seller increases the venting, but the
seller can also say he's not doing it and there is very likely no code
that says he or you has to bring it up to current code.
Or he could have said that it needs a new roof and that the venting is
inadequate. In that case, when you put a new roof on, the venting
most likely would have to be increased if it doesn't meet today's reqts
Note that I'm not arguing that if the roof venting is inadequate,
increasing it isn't a good idea. If it doesn't have adequate venting
I'd increase it. I'm just saying that if it was built
to code at the time, it's unlikely you have to bring it up to code.
If you applied that to all the various things in houses, there would
be a huge amount of expensive work required on houses that were even
just 20 years old. There are some things that are required to be up
to current new code, eg smoke detectors, but those things are the
Yes. At the time we bought the house, no houses had vents like we will be
getting. I only began to notice them a few years ago. However, if they
will fix the problem of the damp garage, I'm all for it!
Agree. But when he said that it needed vents, particularly over the garage,
I did tell him that indeed that was where we were having problems.
Some building codes, like venting a roof, are useful. As I'm sure you are aware, without proper venting, the life of the building structure will be drastically shortened.
Other codes, like mandatory residential fire sprinkler systems, are of dubious value. Their main purpose is to enrich the pockets of the fire sprinkler manufacturers.
I've never seen a plastic kickplate.
I put a brass kickplate on mine outside because the veneer was chipping
at the bottom. The inside needs one too now. I'm trying to decide how
tacky it looks, if at all, but I think it's common and no one will
I don't think it works that way. It it was heavy enough to send him
into the wall, it's heavy or maybe you were continuing to push on it. .
It didnt' injure him because instead of standing still while he was hit,
he moved away from the door, whether propelled by the door or by his own
reflex and muscles.
To see if the door is solid or not, I'd tap on it. A solid door will
make a different sound from your interior hollow doors, like for the
bedroom and bathroom.
No one has pointed out that if your door was code when the house was
built, or later for that matter, it's probably grandfathered in, and
okay. Even if newly constructed houses in the same jurisdiction would
have have to have a better door.
I think one could count on less than one hand the number of things that
people have been forced to change on a house that was up to code when
I can only think of one, a fence around a swimming pool. That is,
there might be some place where swiimming pools were built and no fence
was required around it at the time. Maybe Hollywood in 1925. Or some
all farm area which suddenly got suburbanite "subdivisions" and pools
before they could change the laws.
Are there others?
I'm not talking about banning slaughterhouses or pig farming or oil
drilling in an area that used to allow them, but about physical
construction of the house.
My friend 5 years ago bought a house with knob and tube wiring. It was
still legal in that house, though my friend replaced it anyhow.
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