Not so odd. I learned years ago that when someone tells me that another
person has never told "one" lie that there was no point talking about
evidence or trying to disprove them. I used to be astounded that anyone
would even talk like that, but not anymore.
Your very perceptive, I only posted what was relevent to me, besides,
you're right, I'm sure Gore has lied more than once.
I don't want to speak for Doug, but I for one constantly hear about Rush's
lies and distortions, and I believe ,usually by people that never listened
to him. The man backs up virtually everything he says, and gives his sources
of the information. If you or anyone else has any information to the
contrary, I'd love to hear it, too.
Ad hominem, wow, had to look that one up. I'm impressed with your
vocabulary, but not your choices. Using Rush Limbaugh, a talk show
personality who's only purpose is to slam other people to increase his
ratings to slam someone who has devoted years to public service, has an
excellent track record in the military and actually served in the
military and in politics, is a no brainer. "Any ass can kick down a
barn, who can build one."
Limbaugh never served in the military
or politics, or served his country in any way other than to mock and
scorn others that have served. I'm not one of those people that believe
all politicians are bad, corrupt, or on the take...on the contrary,
serving a public that comes at you from all angles is the toughest arena
anyone could possibly be in.
I can come up with links to justify my position by doing a simple Google
search on "Limbaugh" and pick the ones that back up my own point of
view/or your point of view.
But when it comes to "Who walked the walk and who talked the talk" the
Ad hominem-no, clever twist of words, you can Google all you want, quote
Limbaugh and his sources all you want, but in my mind Limbaugh is a
crybaby, sissy, Gore is a man. Has Gore misspoke, done wrong
things...absolutely, when you put your neck on the line it is bound to
happen. Is he better/worse than Reagan, Clinton, ahh, now we're getting
to some meat.
Being willing to play the fool (and I don't mean playing the clown) is a
true test of leadership. Has Gore been a fool? At times yes.
Now I go back to your original quotes
Pretty evident to me that this is just an oratorical exercise for you,
like Limbaugh, master (and he is) of oratory, but if his oratory is not
attached to a specific cause it is empty.
Sorry, this doesn't have anything to do with "aluminum" or "copper" and
I'll do my best not to reply and waist bandwidth, but this was one of
those "button pushers" for me.
Doug, thanks for the repartee
And Fox News only broadcasts after it gets approval from the RNC...
Serving your country does not mean you have to get elected or be given
a seat in congress or one of the lesser offices or even serve in the
military. Rush provides a service to millions of americans everyday.
Just because you don't like the service he provides and probably think
that you are intellectually superior to the millions of people that do
like the service doesn't mean he isn't contributing something.
Yes, Rush is harsh and condescending at times but so are Harry Reid and
Tom Tancredo. Does that mean they aren't providing a service?
Gore is proven repeat liar. His military "service" was as a journalist.
I never said he did -- where did that come from?
You obviously don't listen to Limbaugh's program. He has nothing but the
greatest respect and admiration for those who wear this nation's
uniform, but he reserves his contempt and scorn for those, like Gore and
Kerry, who hide behind it.
Fine -- do so. You keep saying that. Now prove it.
Sorry, you have that one backwards.
And I see you *still* haven't been able to point to even one lie told by
Limbaugh. I cited three of Gore's.
In other words -- you find yourself still unable to back up your claims,
so you're outta here.
Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out.
Now, don't be silly. Please try learning something before repeating
such things. Why don't we see what Vint Cerf has to say about Al Gore's
contribution to the internet, hm? Or maybe wonder why Gore got a Webby,
wherein they stated they "will present former Vice President Al Gore
with The Webby Lifetime Achievement Award in recognition of the pivotal
role he has played in the development of the internet over the past
three decades." If any current politician in the U.S. that can make any
claim to having helped create the internet, Al Gore is about as close
as it gets.
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:51:35 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller)
He didn't say that either. You've been misled.
Within 15 minutes of the first time I listened to Limbaugh, he came up
with false numbers about how much Mitch Snyder was spending on his
projects in DC. He must have taken the total amount per year and
divided by 12 because the number he announced for the daily
expenditure was about 30 times too high. Instead of considering that
he might have made a mistake in arithmetic, instead of checking his
arithmetic, he labelled Mitch Snyder as a cheat or embezzler. Mitch
Snyder accomplished more good every week than Limbaugh has done in his
whole life. Because Limbaugh didnt' take any calls, there was no one
to correct him. His fans probably just believe everything he says
Limbaugh is a runt who routinely sells out America for (high ratings
and therefore) a high salary.
Yes, he did. No, I haven't.
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range
of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic
growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system. "
First, learn to distinguish between lies and mistakes. Second, where's your
evidence that his figures were wrong anyway?
The statements I cited above by Gore are *lies* -- false statements made,
*knowing* that they are false. He couldn't possibly have truly believed, for
example, that he "took the initiative in creating the internet".
Limbaugh's may or may not have been. You haven't provided any evidence, beyond
your own claim, that his figures were even incorrect. On the whole, I'm
inclined to believe Limbaugh, rather than Mitch Synder, because Mitch Snyder
is a proven liar -- his claims about the number of homeless people dying every
day were not even remotely close to reality.
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
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