Windows XP updates

They may not be making any new updates but all the old ones are still available . Just did a clean install of XP Pro on one of my machines , it's D/L-ing and installing 137 items as I type .
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I just did that...twice.
I had various problems. First I looked for SP1. Finally figured out, you don't need it, start with SP2. Then something force me to upgrade IE. Then SP3 finally applied.
Lots of false steps and mixups. Maybe if I'm forced to do it a 3rd time it will get easier.
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Dan.Espen wrote:

I use Mozilla Firefox , because IE8 sucks and many websites want a browser with the same capabilities . Won't touch Chrome though , Giggle just has too many black marks for tracking stuff .
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notbob wrote:

Unless you've turned it off Windoze update will go online as soon as you boot up and D/L updates . For that matter , those updates may have been on your comp for a long time just awaiting an opportunity to install .
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Lots of people have had problems with the post-installation online updates 'sticking' (a svchost runs permanently, occupying 99% of the processor). This can be alleviated by first installing Microsoft Update Agent. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/bb932139.aspx which says:
To download the Windows Update Agent version 3.0
Download the Windows Update Agent version 3.0 installation file for the appropriate client computer architecture at one of the following locations:
x86-based versions of Windows: Download WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID 0334).
x64-based versions of Windows: Download WindowsUpdateAgent30-x64.exe (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID 0335).
Itanium-based versions of Windows: Download WindowsUpdateAgent30-ia64.exe (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID 0336).
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On Wed, 14 May 2014 22:24:49 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) wrote:

Get down there and do it a 3rd time!
NOW!
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That's why. These are the updates you didn't get during those months. Before the end of support.

A notation in a file? A "latest update on this machine" date.

I'm still getting updates for my desktop. One was that bug that made the news and the rst have been updates for the MS AV program Windows Defender, even though I don't have Windows Defender.
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On Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:08:19 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:

But if I understand it correctly, what he's saying is that he still hasn't had the notebook "online", which I would take to mean connected to the internet. If so, it is a bit unusual that it's suddenly installing 9 updates.
I could see that happening two ways. One is that the updates could have been downloaded one of the last times he had the PC online, before not using it for months. The updates could have been downloaded, but didn't have a chance to install. Or he changed a setting controlling updates in control panel.
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On Thu, 15 May 2014 04:57:06 -0700 (PDT), trader_4

You might be right.
<the notebook "online", which

You might be right. Either way. I lowered the priortiy of updates when they were suspended, because all I was getting were updates for Defender, which I don't have installed.
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On Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:46:29 AM UTC-5, micky wrote: I lowered the priortiy of updates

It doesn't matter at this point...but if you go into the "Control Panel", Windows Defender, and Settings: check "do not use this program".
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On Thu, 15 May 2014 05:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Bob_Villa

Thanks. I just looked, but as I thought, I have no WDefender in my control panel, since I've never had it installed. That's what makes it so funny that it's suddenly sending these files to me.
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The best disaster kit is simply a disk image (Disk Wizard or other image software). Take it right after you load the system, get all the settings the way you like them and load your typical suite of software. I dragged a 1.5TB around to all of my machines and imaged them all.
I also have several XP install disks and a SP/3 upgrade to get myself close.
I am going to look into the WSUS thing but for now Microsoft will give you all the updates the first time you log on. They also have a lot better sense of humor about registering your software. It looks like they will OK it as long as you have a valid key, no matter what machine it was loaded on before. I have 2 on my network running on the same key. That was unintentional but it still worked.
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On 05/15/2014 01:04 PM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

Hi G,
Good point.
I like Clone Zilla for cloning: http://www.clonezilla.org/
Although, with Windows, it is ofter better to wipe and start over fresh. Then make a baseline clone.
When you are doing the Downgrade Rights from W7Pro to XP Pro or Frankenstein 8 Pro to W7 Pro, M$ tells me to go and get a key from someone else. I have told them it is really, really unprofessional. They don't care.
If the key gets reused too many times, they will make you call in on the phone to activate.
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On Thursday, May 15, 2014 4:04:32 PM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

+1
It's a lot faster and easier than re-installing the OS, going through all the updates, loading all the other software, etc. That's how most new PCs are shipped now. They give you a restore image of the complete as shipped PC on a separate partition and they bug you at start up to make a further copy of that onto several DVD's.
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I know that used to be true but lately they seem not to care on XP.
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On 05/15/2014 01:55 PM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

That is a good thing.
There for about a half a year, I had to go in and manually register new Windows 7 OEM's. About a month after installing, they get a pop up saying they were not legit.
And, since I was the one selling the W7 OEM, I knew they were legit. M$ doesn't know its right hand from its left hand.
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I know what you mean. I gotta XP netbook that I won't even take online, for fear of exploits. Yet, when I was shutting down, today, I gotta pop-up telling me 9 updates were being installed. ?!?!?!?
From where? I've not even had this machine online is mos. Seriously.
What? M$ is now using paranormal means? Witches? Voodoo? Spooky.
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On 5/14/2014 9:01 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:

Woke up this morning to the little update icon on my XP machine. It wants to install a new version/update of the malicious software removal tool. What the heck? All the hoopla about no more updates and then it wants to update.
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On 05/14/2014 06:01 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:

Hi All,
As part of your "XP Emergency Disaster kit", get yourself
1) a copy of your install disk with key
2) make a copy on stick of your updates. Get them from WSUS: http://www.wsusoffline.net/
Nice part about WSUS is that all the conflicting and/or superseded updates are removed, so you don't crash installing them.
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On 05/15/2014 12:35 PM, Todd wrote:

If you don't have your disk, find someone with one and copy it. M$ doesn't care if you have the original media, only the key.
You can't mix versions of XP, so get the same version.
You can get a later service pack of the same version.
If your key sticker has rubbed/pealed off, your can read it and print it out with Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder http://www.magicaljellybean.com

XP is under the "Legacy" tab.

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