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and why unions ended up being run by guys with diamond

I got problems with that, from the Vegas experience alone. I think a lot of that was creative bookkeeping on the part of Hoffa and Pinkie ring types. (Not that the the Feds did not make it worse).

collapse, for example, was largely bad management. But it was also largely bad management of the interaction with the unions.
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That seems to be the issue all over the place. Business caved into all the union demands during the good times but then all the bills came due and those demands that seemed reasonable when times were good could no longer be met and the unions have steadfastly refused to recognize the difference. The one single element most often missed by unions is that virtually every company and organization faces competition from other companies and organizations for their business. Even states and cities are starting to realize this fact, everyone except the unions it seems. The day when companies could freely raise their prices to make up for increased union demands has ended some time back. The same is occuring on the government front and people are not going to accept higher taxes to support unions that are asking for higher and higher pensions with more and more benefits....all the while giving less and less service.

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Robert Green wrote:

But that was a hundred years ago. Much of the things the unions fought for are now carved in the marble of federal and state law. Giant government bureaucracies have been constructed to handle the issues unions demanded: The Department of Labor, OSHA, Consumer Product Safety Commission, and more.
Unions have outlived their usefulness in these areas and should not be currently continued based solely on their successes of the past.
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:52:47 -0500, "Robert Green"

They never were. Wages aren't the only reason for "off-shoring".

None of that is anything new. In addition, they will copy a design and sell it as a competitor. They will also change a design without notification. Without a full-time on-site babysitter dealing with the Chinese is a mess. It always has been.

Spoken like the socialist you are.

They day is over, though the big problem is government unions. They *have* to be broken or they *will* break the country.

Sad to see that so many think nothing has changed. Sad to see that so many would rather be unemployed than actually produce something others actually want to buy.

All irrelevant.
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No real surprise but I doubt that the work will return to the US but will migrate to other underdeveloped countries.

Now there is proof that the UNIONS have gotten involved...shoddier goods and longer production times.

Darn those pesky Chineese, they do learn fast.

Funny, never been a member of a Union and never have had any problem getting fair pay for a fair day's work either.

Unions have a place in society but they have grossly overplayed their position and totally forgotten who makes out the paychecks.

But like anything in life, a little can be good but too much can be destructive.

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HeyBub wrote:

Why does Texas have a habbit of electing numbskulls for governor?
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HeyBub wrote:

Your story seems to lack certain details:
http://www.hippy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid 6
In 1968 (when Otis would have been 29 years old) he was given a sentence of 30 years (not 15) for selling a joint to an undercover cop.
========Unfamiliar with Lee Otis' case, Smith asked a reporter, "What in the world do they have against beans?" When the reporter explained what the crowd was shouting, Smith said, "I thought they were saying 'frijoles.'" The papers loved it, and the Lee Otis story took on yet another bit of symbolic cachet, providing a perfect example of the clueless politician. ======== Your "enhancement" that he was a minister and that the prosecutor wanted to go easy on him, or that the sentence was "hard labor" doesn't appear anywhere that I can find.
==========Lee Otis was released after four years when a federal judge ruled that his trial should not have been held in Houston. ========== But stripping away all your added hyperbole, if you wanted to make the point that Texas Gov. Smith was clueless, that much is apparently true.

(lame story)
Bush was (still is) a numbskull, and so is Perry.
When they say "It's the sizzle, not the steak" - you Texans fall for it every time.
You'd vote for a fence post as governor (or president) if it had good-ol-boy painted on it. Brains don't matter to you as much as swagger. In fact, having brains is a turn-off for Texas voters.
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HeyBub wrote:

I don't criticize god for anything - because god is a fictional character that doesn't exist.
Although there have been times I've prayed to god to protect me from those that believe in him.
Did you know that god redeems sinners for valuable cash prizes?
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bladder and appendix were God's plan to a floor under the yearly income of the general surgeon.
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Who knew God was a lefty?
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h wrote:

You mean like Dwight Eisenhower, Howard Hughes, Walter Cronkite, or Janis Joplin?
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No, just Haller.
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I don't like the guy and would never vote for him. That said, the media is making a big deal of this. Sure, it is embarrassing, but what politician has not blundered? How many of us could be out there repeating the same worn out mantra dozens of times a day, days on end, and not screw up?
My guess is that the guy is tired and had a bad moment. Move on, try to find what the politicians are really going to do and what they think policy should be. Then make an informed decision.
If the media did not sensationalize every tiny error or personality flaw, maybe we'd have a better pool of candidates to choose from. Even if they did inhale once or twice.
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:50:29 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

And this idiot who thinks he's god is good? This idiot who doesn't know what the US motto is? This idiot who thinks its great to spend $250,000 to create one job that nobody can find in congressional districts that do not exist? This criminal who refuses to prove he legally has the right to hold any federal elected office? This idiot who NEVER balanced a budget or managed an organization. This idiot who thinks he can create jobs, when the government is incapable of creating real jobs?
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Bob F wrote:

No, here's the idiot. The klown.
http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/1422088249131e19fe0e6a706700a6f9.jpg
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Republicans in 2002 thru 2007 "If you criticize a President during war time you are a traitor."
Republicans in 2008 thru 2011 "It is OK to criticize a President during war time."
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Country wrote:

Excellent inventions!
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HeyBub wrote:

That atmosphere or sentiment certainly existed in the public media during those years.
It was really bad during the lead-up to the 2004 presidential election. It was so bad you got the sense that they didn't want to hold an election during "war time". You don't change horses half-way through a race (or some such nonsense).
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Home Guy wrote:

I'll play: What Republican expressed either sentiment? Gimme a name (and a quote). Just one.
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Considering the clear bias of the 'public media" for the Dems, that is no surprise they would make such a claim (It's also no surprise you would swallow such shit)

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