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Wish some one who is a real conservative could be nominated. But, seems that the parties give us a choice like 1994, was it? Fascist B, or socialist C.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .
On the other hand, that Obama fellow got his ideas from some guy named Romney, who tried something pretty close to the Canadian system in Massachusetts.
Is Ron Paul running?
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Tegger the lying lier wrote:

See my last post (about 10 minutes ago).
See why I have proved you to be a lying lier.
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You've simply proved you can't spell, nothing else. It's liar, not lier. Back into your bathyscaphe, "Doctor" Ballard. The Titanic awaits. What do you call a troll wrapped in chains at the bottom of the sea? A good start.
-- Bobby G.
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That's "liar". an "A", not an "E".
And you must be young enough not to have ever had to navigate the frustrating, insufficient, sparse, bare, uncaring, perfunctory, hasty, short, slow, inefficient, "I have no control over that", Canadian medical system.
Up here, nobody's responsible, nobody has any sort of control or effect, nobody can just "make stuff happen". It's the very strangest thing: Even family doctors are powerless to help their patients. Imaging can deny the doctor a scan for his 85-year-old patient, and there's nothing he can do about it except get testy towards the nurses on his patient's floor ("Stay away from Dr. X today; Imaging turned him down on his order for a CT on Mrs. Y.".
Nurses and orderlies up here are /all/ unionized. It is impossible to get any of them even disciplined, much less fired, even if they kill patients by accident. Even hospital managers are totally powerless against the SEIU. All hospitals are government-owned, of course.
Emerg staffing is static: Number of staff on the floor is exactly the same whether the ER is crowded or bare. No adjustments of any kind are made to ER staffing levels as demand changes. The nurses are not bad people, they just get sort of inured to the pressures of high-demand times, and stop rushing for anybody, anytime, ever. There's no point: they'd go insane; they have no control over anything anyway. There might be a single pediatrican for the entire hospital, and he will take 8 hours to see you and your vomiting, crying, severely distressed 2-week-old newborn. All that is a big factor in the accurately-perceived horribility of Canadian ERs.
Regarding the overbooking of CT and MRI scans, my GP said, and I quote, "We're all doing it; it's the only way we can keep the times down to their minimum".
And guess what? We are /prohibited/ by the Canada Health Act of 1985 from purchasing our own care unless we cross the border.
In the noble effort to improve health care, governments and activists have created the most awful and deadly monster ever devised. My solution: A Constitutional amendment prohibiting any individual, government entity, or any other entity with any sort of connection to any government or governmental power, from having anything to do with health care provision or funding. Ever. Period. Full stop.
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overuse of nuclear based testing is raising patients lifetime cancer risk........
something to think about before your next test
the trouble isnt a single test is the lifetime dose
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That's about how long it takes in the USA too...
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HeyBub the lying lier wrote:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/119356.php
============Medical Imaging in Canada reports that in 2007, there were 419 CT scanners and 222 MRI machines installed and operational in Canada, up from 325 and 149, respectively, in 2003.
As of 2007, Canada has 12 CT scanners and 6 MRI machines per million population.
In OECD countries as of 2005, the median value is 15 CT scanners and 7 MRI machines per million population.
There were 103 CT exams per 1,000 people performed in Canada in 2007, less than the rate performed in both the United States (207) and Belgium (138), but higher than the rate in Sweden (89), Spain (57), England (54) and Denmark (34).
In comparison, Canada's rate of MRI exams per 1,000 population (31) was higher than that in England (25), Spain (21) and Denmark (17), and lower than in the U.S. (89), Belgium (43) and Sweden (39). Information on scans per 1,000 population was available for only six OECD countries other than Canada.
In 2007, the US had about 4 times as many MRI scanners per-million population as Canada, but the US performed less than 3 times as many actual scans per-million population, an indication that Canadian MRI units were used more efficiently.
Positron emission tomography (PET) is a type of nuclear medicine examination used to detect cancerous tumours, some brain disorders and diseases of the heart and other organs. Another new technology combines PET and CT imaging, allowing physicians to examine both the function of an organ and the anatomical details of its tissues at the same time. As of January 1, 2007, there were 18 PET/CT scanners in Canada and 13 PET scanners. ===============
http://www.magnetic-resonance.org/MagRes%20Chapters/21_02.htm
==============Japan has the highest per capita number of MRI units, followed by the USA.
As of 2008, Canada has 8 MRI units per one-million population (same as UK). The US has 32 per one million, Japan has 46, Germany has 27, France has 9, and Europe (in total) has 11 per one-million population.
MRI units vary considerably in terms of resolution based on their field strength. Newer MRI units tend to have a higher field strength compared to older units. Canada has a higher percentage of newer MRI units (less than 6 years old) compared to the US. ==============
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Dr. Ballard wrote:

Or the patients were made to wait their turn for weeks.
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That's the one. They "cut costs" by limiting supply severely.
I posted two very long replies yesterday. Go read them. THAT's the REAL Canadian medical system: A morass of confusion and scarcity.
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Tegger wrote:

That's strange, most Canadians I've spoken to like the system. I know y'all are taxed heavily for this, I thought it was a much better system than you described.
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They like that they don't have to pay for it out-of-pocket, and that's about it. The "big bills" stories they hear from the US scare them.
I can't count the number of Canadians who have told me, "Thank God <whatever> didn't happen to me in the States; I'd be bankrupt by now". And then in the next breath they complain about how long it took to get through all the waiting lists.

Yes. The system is anything but "free". It's a bit cheaper than your system, but you wait a lot. Plus the technology tends to be older, because older technology is cheaper.

It's slow, impersonal, and hasty. When you have to actually go through it, you don't like it so much anymore.
People forget that the Canadian system was far different prior to 1985. Before that it was largely privately provided and funded. All our current problems have their roots in the 1985 law.
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wrote:

When I hear these stories I always tell people to go to one of the province web sites and run their taxes through the Canadian tax code. It always shocks them as to how much in taxes you guys pay. I bet you don't have 47% not paying any income tax at all.
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Oren wrote:

I'm sure the health care work force in the UK has more workers than the Jamaican army. Do they even have one?
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wrote:

Perhaps you want to educate yourself (probably not)? UK National Health Service = 1.7M employees, up from 1.5M two years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers
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kr williams (krw @ att.biz) used improper usenet message composition style by unnecessarily full-quoting:

Perhaps you should try to edit your replies properly and not drag the entire thread into every reply you post.
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snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

So what is your point?
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wrote:

If you can't figure that out, you're as stupid as HomoGay.
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snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

*plonk*
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wrote:

Another idiot with fingers in ears, humming loudly, so he can't hear the adults verbally spank him.
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George used improper usenet message composition style by full-quoting:

I love you too George.
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