Which is more economical - electric or natural gas water heater?

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My earmuff modem was hooked to a homemade modem circuit running off a 6800D2 kit with hex keypad into a Heathkit terminal. 2K or ram memory was a pipe dream for me.
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I built my modem with an XR2206/XR2211 chip set on a pair of 2inch sq experimenter boards....the whole thing cost less than $5 to build... it ran off the internal power of the computer. A couple of years later I upgraded and built a modem with an AMD-7910 chip.
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I did figure out that you can call the manufacturer and tell them you want to experiment with XX chip or chipset, and they will send you some in the mail for free :-)

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Who cares what you doubt. Ooooh what are you, a heating tech? That's about a step above a plumber. ;o)

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I know all about Fidonet and Im not impressed that you are going on vacation. I could be childish like you and say I have millions of dollars but that would be stooping to your level. I have a job where I can come and go as I please and do what ever I want. FYI I dropped 250 on my wife and she stays around anyway. That's what happens when you have a large penis. ;o) Further more If I had 250k I would give it to people that need it. Good thing you have all that money so you buy Viagra. Send your wife my love. ;o) Just because you run a business don't think you're any smarter than I am. ;o) Your techs are not smarter then me either. I have 50 times the knowledge and skills they do. Your fucking jaw would drop if you knew what I knew. I work with people that have PHD's all day long. At least I have an excuse for bragging. If you are as old as you claim to be you need to serioulsy grow the fuck up not me. Go enjoy your vaction troll boy.

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Man! You work with all artseys?...LOL
I need to talk about Rinnai units with you!

amuse me. I

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Well if you intend on getting one you might find I know more then the idiots who claim to sell and install them. ;o)

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Yes, I am finding this out. Tell me please.
Do they have any pumps inside? Heat exhangers Hot water heating loop? Can the set temperature be controlled from a millivolt or milliamp input...say from a thermostat controller? I take it they do not suffer from thermal shock from incoming chill? Is the vent kit just a dual walled pipe for venting? What is the aprox. delay in hot water need recognition, where the unit "kicks in"?
Thanx

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A somewhat related question: I am in Peco's Philly area, with electri rates near 12c/kwh, I believe. However I have and use the Rate time rate for all evening uses. I pay double during peak for all uses It is almost better as a disincentive to use elec than any rea savings, in my opinion My question is Can someone help me figure out how much it costs t heat up the (cringe) spa from 70 degrees F to 95' ? This would o course be only at the off peak rate. Just take it as 500 gals x 2. pounds per gal. 1100 lbs.
Part 2 would be what does it cost to run the 11.5 hp pump system. I
usually gets run 1 hour, sometimes only 1x/ week. The heatup is onl needed in the real winter months, otherwise it holds the heat ver well. I hope to an an enclosure to reduce this loss. We don't use i often. I'll do the math If I can find the formulas or factors. Thanks M
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Where do you get light water? Our's weighs one hell of a lot more than that.

Holy Crap, an 11.5 HP motor needs a huge electrical supply. Most are three phase at that power.

Based on your figures above, you can't do the math. Start over with the right numbers.
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It isn't one motor. It is a system. This is a 220v spa. There are three pumps. One for air, 1.5hp, 2 each 5hp. I guess i really don't want to know. I've had it since Nov a year ago. Haven't really noticed a difference in bills.
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