I bought the $99 10" sliding compound miter saw. While it's no
Hitachi, it's fairly decent considering it's 1/5 the price. I also
bought a couple of their $20 cordless drills. Those were
Well, I appreciate the generosity, but you're just setting yourself up
by buying "throwaway" loaner tools. What happens when your loaner 1/2"
socket wrench goes missing? Ar you going to replace it with another
one so someone can borrow it? That's a fun merry-go-round to ride on.
Say your 1/2" loaner socket is MIA, and you haven't gotten around to
replacing it yet - do you think the guy who's looking to borrow it, and
not finding it in the loaner set, isn't going to ask to borrow the good
one? That would imply a conscience, and guys who
steal...errrr....borrow tools and don't return them don't have a
conscience you can rely on.
Lots of luck with it. You'll need it.
If the tools started disappearing regularly, I would shut the operation
down and start being the a$$hole who doesn't help out a neighbor.
I figure over 15-20 years, a few tools will evaporate... I wouldn't
let the same neighbor keep borrowing if they keep losing them...
We will see, perhaps neighbors aren't worth the trouble anymore, and I
should just be a hermit.
It seems like you have excellent intentions....
How about this....
put up a little pegboard.
Have the names or street numbers of the neighbors.
When they borrow something put the item on a 3x5 card so that they know
you consider the tools to be valuable.
THEN - If a tool gets lost - like the current situation, you just go
and buy a replacement at full price for that tool and put the receipt
up with the name of the borrower.
THEN if they come back to borrow something else, you go to their name
and - the bill will be there - if they pay the full price then they can
In the past there have been computer simulations of various stratgies
for "getting along".
I seem to remember two strategies doing well-
1) TIT for TAT (which is what I described above)
2) TIT for TWO TATs - which did slightly better in the simulations (you
give the person a second chance...)
I think you need to establish that YOU value your tools -
good luck and report back!
If you want to loan out your tools,ask for something like their driver's
license,major credit card,or auto title first.
Something they are not going to want to do without.
They get it back when the tool is returned,*in good condition*.
(I know guys who can ruin a drill bit in one use,and can overheat a corded
drill to the point it stops working)
Buying an extra set of tools for loaning out is nuts.
If you don't trust them with your tools,don't loan them out.
Your neighbor misplaced one tool and now you want to buy a set of tools
so you can loan those out? Does this neighbor have a history of not
giving back tools? If so, then he cannot be trusted with your dog or
mail either. If this is a rare occassion then you are being awfully
tough on this fellow. Why not just forgive him and let it go this
time? The next time he wants to borrow a tool joke with him about
giving his car keys to you for collateral. He'll get the message and
will either change his mind or be extra careful with it.
"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the
support of Paul." ~ George Bernard Shaw
also,the "no more borrowing" category,AFAI'm concerned.
A guy I worked with,I knew he was a tool abuser,and he wanted to borrow my
personal set of small taps and dies.I showed him where the shop set was,and
a few minutes later,he had broken off the tap in the workpiece.So,he puts
the broken piece back in the case,and does not bother to tell the shipping
clerk (with the company credit card) to buy a replacement.The next
time,there was no tap for him to use,and he comes back to me. I told him he
should have bought a new one when he broke the last one,and asked him why
he put the BROKEN piece back in the box.
(I kept some of my own tools because of this guy and another who didn't put
them back where they belonged,and/or abused them to the point of
uselessness.Of course,they had a "problem" with that,I wasn't a "team
player",etc.The usual whiny PC BS.)
The HF tools will be fine (Pittsburgh brand I believe, lifetime warranty).
That's what I get for tool rolls for my vehicles. Cheap when I lose them
in the mud and snow (I do a lot of 4 wheeling) and I have yet to break one.
My philosophy on HF is this: If it's got a plug on it, don't buy it
(although their Central Machinery stuff is pretty decent....stay away from
Chicago Electric). I've found their pneumatics to work just fine and be a
fraction of the cost of the Senco's, etc.... For $30, you could come up
with a pretty good set of "loaner" handtools....
Thanks, I will check out the Pittsburgh brand.
I mentioned neighbors, but I also have 3 brother-in-laws who I think
have a couple screwdrivers and a handful of sockets (but no socket
wrench) between them, sigh.....
That one is easy- run out this week and get homeowner's or starter mechanics
sets for them for Xmas. The $150 bucks for the wally world or sams clubs
sets will be worth it in goodwill and dinner invites from your sisters.
The good tools I keep in the house. The 'disposable' tools go in the trunk
of the car for road trips. Haven't got the garage set up yet, since I just
moved in six months ago, but I don't think good tools, the small ones at
least, will be out there unless I can get the humidity under control. Even
if they do, they will be in a box, not on a pegboard, since the work is
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